[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The sooner "we" can switch to alternative fuels and leave the middle east to its own devices, the better.

I was on holiday in the Southern States the year before last and the most striking thing about there (especially Texas) was the consumerism and total lack of environmental friendliness there, massive cars/trucks, fast food places literally everywhere, s**t food, over weight people. I thought to myself there's no way these guys are going to cut back on all this stuff, not a chance. We also went to San Francisco though on the last leg of that trip and it was liking flying into a different country