[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by MTVN

It's not beyond comprehension that Western citizens can be active in Middle East affairs without a malign motive and with a genuine interest in positive change in the region

I completely agree; the arms industry ain't it though.

[Nicky91]

why is the Taliban back in control a bad thing though?


i mean they really seem to be wanting to do things differently than last time around (1996-2001)


more diplomacy, more working together to solve any issues

[bots]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

why is the Taliban back in control a bad thing though?


i mean they really seem to be wanting to do things differently than last time around (1996-2001)


more diplomacy, more working together to solve any issues

no they are not. They have already executed innocent people

[MTVN]

So what are the allegations against QinetiQ? From looking them up most of their products are in things like surveillance and radar technology. One of their major products is used to detect and disable roadside bombs for instance. How many lives has that saved if we're throwing around accusations of them being culpable for murder?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

one of the things the taliban ban is music. I couldn't live in a world without music

and keeping pets, just listened to a father whose son died out there and he had a buddy dog that they managed to bring back, they now have an animal charity with many female vets with 98 dogs and 88 cats and they hope to bring them all back to the UK

[Nicky91]

the past is in the past, let's just focus on the present and maybe we should give their plan a chance, to solve most issues in the country

the enemy of my enemy is my friend is a very famous saying


and i fear the rise of new terror groups more than the taliban, so i'd say it is a good thing they want strong international diplomatic alliances

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

the past is in the past, let's just focus on the present and maybe we should give their plan a chance, to solve most issues in the country

the enemy of my enemy is my friend is a very famous saying


and i fear the rise of new terror groups more than the taliban, so i'd say it is a good thing they want strong international diplomatic alliances

I'm sure all the women in Afghanistan are resting easy........

[Nicky91]

yes ok the anti women's rights is only thing i disagree with them, and also anti-music, anti-pets

but tbh no country in the world is perfect



if better international relations can prevent new threats like Al Qaeda or even worse ISIL, then yes we should recognize them as new leaders of afghanistan and we should accept their terms

[MTVN]

Anyone heard anything from Biden yet

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yes ok the anti women's rights is only thing i disagree with them, and also anti-music, anti-pets

but tbh no country in the world is perfect



if better international relations can prevent new threats like Al Qaeda or even worse ISIL, then yes we should recognize them as new leaders of afghanistan and we should accept their terms

I mean to make that statement with the word "only" and a laughing emoji? I don't even know how to respond to that.....

[bots]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Anyone heard anything from Biden yet

he is on holiday at camp david apparently. Really showing his caring side

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by MTVN

So what are the allegations against QinetiQ? From looking them up most of their products are in things like surveillance and radar technology. One of their major products is used to detect and disable roadside bombs for instance. How many lives has that saved if we're throwing around accusations of them being culpable for murder?

Their share price is up again today, and it's not because they are a benign influence disabling road side bombs. They know full well what the Taliban back in Afghanistan will mean for their industry. They use some very coded language to describe their tactical exercises that I'll see if I can dig out for you (can't remember where I read it a while back but remember that even companies like blackwater don't describe themselves as murderers in their own literature), and it's a company that's achieved it's massive financial successes on the backs of the Afghani people.
They're war profiteers.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/q...ss-qdcw2w603w9

[Oliver_W]

I guess the Taliban aren't actually any different from any other islamic "government", but they won't have a bloodless takeover.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Anyone heard anything from Biden yet

Youtube video

[arista]

Yesterday making the Airport close down.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yes ok the anti women's rights is only thing i disagree with them, and also anti-music, anti-pets

but tbh no country in the world is perfect



if better international relations can prevent new threats like Al Qaeda or even worse ISIL, then yes we should recognize them as new leaders of afghanistan and we should accept their terms

Actually, I think even just the anti Women's rights should be why they should NEVER be in power anywhere.

[arista]

[arista]

Dominic Raab Foreign Secretary
has come back from his Cyprus Holiday
Back in Westminster.

So Labour can stop moaning, now.

[arista]

President Biden is due to talk Live at 8:45PM UK time

[arista]

BBCnews showing protests outside the White House

And Biden is to talk today, he has cut his holiday.

[arista]

Dominic Raab Foreign Secretary
claims he will hold the Taliban to account?


So what
as if they care what he says?

[Cherie]

Already all the boutiques, beauty salons and hairdressers have been closed and any female images painted over ...

Sheila Fogerty had to deal with a particularly nasty man on her phone in today who supported what was going on

[Beso]

People are clinging to the us military planes as they try and take off.

They are taking off and people are falling from them.


Great work joe...really, well done there sir..

[arista]

Biden is now Live

all media.

[joeysteele]

Not impressed with this speech at all from Biden.

I think he has acted unwisely on this and he is wrong.
Air power should have been left in place to help the Afghan forces on the ground.
In my view.

No, Biden is making a poor account of himself and his decision to act so quickly to enact his predecessor's previous set up policy.