[Angus]

Originally Posted by Iceman

I think it's horrible that she still hasn't been found Alive or Dead......still completely the parents faults though.

The "fault" lies with the person or person(s) who took Madeleine. I think the parents have been sentenced to a life sentence since this will probably overshadow everything they ever do for the rest of their lives.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by angus58

The "fault" lies with the person or person(s) who took Madeleine. I think the parents have been sentenced to a life sentence since this will probably overshadow everything they ever do for the rest of their lives.

This.. especially the "not knowing" part....

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by angus58

The "fault" lies with the person or person(s) who took Madeleine. I think the parents have been sentenced to a life sentence since this will probably overshadow everything they ever do for the rest of their lives.

The "fault" lies with the idiotic parents who decided to leave their children alone, in a foreign country, whilst they went out with friends drinking.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Iceman

The "fault" lies with the idiotic parents who decided to leave their children alone, in a foreign country, whilst they went out with friends drinking.

So every parent who does not watch their child 24/7 is to blame if they are abducted? I suppose you would say that Denise Bulger and Sarah Payne are responsible for the abduction and murder of their children too? These parents have not done anything countless others have not done before and since. It's wonderful to have hindsight isn't it? - I should think they beat themselves up over this every day of their lives, and I find it incredible that people cannot find any compassion for them.

At the end of the day the abductor(s) are the guilty ones - the most these parents are guilty of is lack of judgment and naivety in believing that their children were safely asleep close by. You make it sound as if every child unattended for even a minute (as in the case of Jamie Bulger) is fair game for any passing abductor and somehow the parents "deserve" it.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by angus58

So every parent who does not watch their child 24/7 is to blame if they are abducted? I suppose you would say that Denise Bulger and Sarah Payne are responsible for the abduction and murder of their children too? These parents have not done anything countless others have not done before and since. It's wonderful to have hindsight isn't it? - I should think they beat themselves up over this every day of their lives, and I find it incredible that people cannot find any compassion for them.

At the end of the day the abductor(s) are the guilty ones - the most these parents are guilty of is lack of judgment and naivety in believing that their children were safely asleep close by. You make it sound as if every child unattended for even a minute (as in the case of Jamie Bulger) is fair game for any passing abductor and somehow the parents "deserve" it.

Do you go out on the pish in foreign countrys leaving your kid home alone angus?

In the UK leaving a child that age alone would have been classified as neglect/abuse by Social Services and chargeable under UKs laws - because bad situation they have not been prosecuted after return to UK

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by angus58

So every parent who does not watch their child 24/7 is to blame if they are abducted? I suppose you would say that Denise Bulger and Sarah Payne are responsible for the abduction and murder of their children too.

Small minded incomparable - were the parents out on the pish there too????

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Iceman

The "fault" lies with the idiotic parents who decided to leave their children alone, in a foreign country, whilst they went out with friends drinking.

A bit exteme, but why I said the parents were dodgy in early posts on thread and why they are 'guilty' and have to get so much publicity - for effing up

In my idea they effed-up going out on the pish allowing their kid to be abducted/murdered by kiddie fiddler.

[AJ.]

So sad

[Stacey.]

like, obviously it was Kate and Gerrys fault because they left them their kids there on their own... but they werent to know anything like that was going to happen! theyve had the past few years so bad, its a bit unfair to put all the blame onto them.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

like, obviously it was Kate and Gerrys fault because they left them their kids there on their own... but they werent to know anything like that was going to happen! theyve had the past few years so bad, its a bit unfair to put all the blame onto them.

I never put all the blame on them Stace - the kiddy fiddler is obviously the one who caused the girl harm. I'm suggesting the parents became complicit by leaving their daughter unattended and going on the pish in a foreign countrry. In UK, leaving a child of her age unsupervised and going out on the pish is called child neglect.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Claymores

I never put all the blame on them Stace - the kiddy fiddler is obviously the one who caused the girl harm. I'm suggesting the parents became complicit by leaving their daughter unattended and going on the pish in a foreign countrry. In UK, leaving a child of her age unsupervised and going out on the pish is called child neglect.

The UK is pretty fickle to be honest. A white middle class family, good jobs and a photogenic girl, the media jumps on it, and the UK all join together for the mourning of this lost girl (until the next one comes along of course). Before the Shannon Matthews thing came to light, it hardly got any coverage at all. Then they focused on the parents, everyone seems to forget the facts of the case, like she was pretty much imprisoned, and forced to take anti-depressants. God knows the psychological damage done to her. And Shannon is pretty much forgotten about now, also I wonder how many people were thinking about Maddie when the whole Baby P thing was going on. Maddie pops up every now and then in the media and people go "Ohhhhhhhhhhhh yeah"