[Angus]

Originally Posted by Iceman

I think it's horrible that she still hasn't been found Alive or Dead......still completely the parents faults though.

The "fault" lies with the person or person(s) who took Madeleine. I think the parents have been sentenced to a life sentence since this will probably overshadow everything they ever do for the rest of their lives.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by angus58

The "fault" lies with the person or person(s) who took Madeleine. I think the parents have been sentenced to a life sentence since this will probably overshadow everything they ever do for the rest of their lives.

This.. especially the "not knowing" part....

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by angus58

The "fault" lies with the person or person(s) who took Madeleine. I think the parents have been sentenced to a life sentence since this will probably overshadow everything they ever do for the rest of their lives.

The "fault" lies with the idiotic parents who decided to leave their children alone, in a foreign country, whilst they went out with friends drinking.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Iceman

The "fault" lies with the idiotic parents who decided to leave their children alone, in a foreign country, whilst they went out with friends drinking.

So every parent who does not watch their child 24/7 is to blame if they are abducted? I suppose you would say that Denise Bulger and Sarah Payne are responsible for the abduction and murder of their children too? These parents have not done anything countless others have not done before and since. It's wonderful to have hindsight isn't it? - I should think they beat themselves up over this every day of their lives, and I find it incredible that people cannot find any compassion for them.

At the end of the day the abductor(s) are the guilty ones - the most these parents are guilty of is lack of judgment and naivety in believing that their children were safely asleep close by. You make it sound as if every child unattended for even a minute (as in the case of Jamie Bulger) is fair game for any passing abductor and somehow the parents "deserve" it.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by angus58

So every parent who does not watch their child 24/7 is to blame if they are abducted? I suppose you would say that Denise Bulger and Sarah Payne are responsible for the abduction and murder of their children too? These parents have not done anything countless others have not done before and since. It's wonderful to have hindsight isn't it? - I should think they beat themselves up over this every day of their lives, and I find it incredible that people cannot find any compassion for them.

At the end of the day the abductor(s) are the guilty ones - the most these parents are guilty of is lack of judgment and naivety in believing that their children were safely asleep close by. You make it sound as if every child unattended for even a minute (as in the case of Jamie Bulger) is fair game for any passing abductor and somehow the parents "deserve" it.

Do you go out on the pish in foreign countrys leaving your kid home alone angus?

In the UK leaving a child that age alone would have been classified as neglect/abuse by Social Services and chargeable under UKs laws - because bad situation they have not been prosecuted after return to UK

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Do you go out on the pish in foreign countrys leaving your kid home alone angus?

What a ridiculous, immature and frankly offensive response! You have ignored completely the premise that the ABDUCTOR is the one to blame for Madeleine's disappearance, the most the parents can be accused of is naivety and misjudgment, something ALL parents are guilty of from time to time and NOTHING to do with getting pissed. Denise Bulger was at a counter in a shop paying for her purchase and turned away for just a moment; That's all it took for her son to be led away. Sarah Payne's daughter was out playing with her siblings when she was abducted.

And instead of showing any compassion for what was at most was an error of judgment, people are virtually saying the McCanns DESERVE what happened. That may be your view, but they are certainly not GUILTY of the fact that their daughter was ABDUCTED, unless you are suggesting they are somehow involved in the abduction?

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by angus58

What a ridiculous, immature and frankly offensive response! You have ignored completely the premise that the ABDUCTOR is the one to blame for Madeleine's disappearance, the most the parents can be accused of is naivety and misjudgment, something ALL parents are guilty of from time to time and NOTHING to do with getting pissed. Denise Bulger was at a counter in a shop paying for her purchase and turned away for just a moment; That's all it took for her son to be led away. Sarah Payne's daughter was out playing with her siblings when she was abducted.

And instead of showing any compassion for what was at most was an error of judgment, people are virtually saying the McCanns DESERVE what happened. That may be your view, but they are certainly not GUILTY of the fact that their daughter was ABDUCTED, unless you are suggesting they are somehow involved in the abduction?

What a stupid response - there are 3 involved parties - the kiddy.
fiddler who abducted/murdered the kid - the parents who illegaly went out and left minor for bevvies (UK laws)

Thhere is a difference between taking your daughter to TOYs R Us and missing her for 3 minutus than leaving her in a bedroom and going getting pished which you cannot see

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by angus58

And instead of showing any compassion for what was at most was an error of judgment, people are virtually saying the McCanns DESERVE what happened. That may be your view, but they are certainly not GUILTY of the fact that their daughter was ABDUCTED, unless you are suggesting they are somehow involved in the abduction?

I never have - I said the poor girl is dead from some kiddie fiddler and the parents become complicit as out on the pish and illegal in UK to leave child alone

[Claymores]

If it wasn't such a sore one and in foreign country , the parents could have charged with child neglect

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by angus58

So every parent who does not watch their child 24/7 is to blame if they are abducted? I suppose you would say that Denise Bulger and Sarah Payne are responsible for the abduction and murder of their children too.

Small minded incomparable - were the parents out on the pish there too????

[Claymores]

put it this way angus - I wouldn't choose them to be godparents of my daughter even if I had religion

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Iceman

The "fault" lies with the idiotic parents who decided to leave their children alone, in a foreign country, whilst they went out with friends drinking.

A bit exteme, but why I said the parents were dodgy in early posts on thread and why they are 'guilty' and have to get so much publicity - for effing up

In my idea they effed-up going out on the pish allowing their kid to be abducted/murdered by kiddie fiddler.