[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I 100% agree with this, I am not one for conspiracy theories normally but this explanation from you is the only logical reason for last nights events.
Completely unfair and set up, no matter what they say now.

of course they'll say absolutely nothing about it though, I was dying for the judges phone calls bit on Xtra Factor so someone could give out about it but of course not one caller did...........funny that

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

of course they'll say absolutely nothing about it though, I was dying for the judges phone calls bit on Xtra Factor so someone could give out about it but of course not one caller did...........funny that

Like me,I guess, maybe you are of the view they wouldn't put any calls as to that on the board in the first place. Very suspicious and a very unsavoury smell to last nights events overall.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Like me,I guess, maybe you are of the view they wouldn't put any calls as to that on the board in the first place. Very suspicious and a very unsavoury smell to last nights events overall.

of course! I mean I'd bet my life they were flooded with callers giving out about it.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

of course they'll say absolutely nothing about it though, I was dying for the judges phone calls bit on Xtra Factor so someone could give out about it but of course not one caller did...........funny that

if ever there were to be evidence of a fix, that HAS to be it!! As if nobody would ring about that??? what planet do they think we live on? planet Uranus or something???

[Z]

I think people are missing the point - the conspiracy is that the vote went to Cheryl 2nd which is unprecedented - and then voiding her right to vote despite her saying she wanted to take it to deadlock after Dannii and Louis had voted, and Dermot quickly glossing over it by saying she had lost her right to vote. That is the suspicious part. Simon's reason for voting was ridiculous because the public clearly don't want to see Katie after it being her 3rd time in the sing off in five weeks; which further fuels the conspiracy to keep Katie in because there is no obvious advantage to keep her in the show now other than for ratings and headlines borne out of controversy. Treyc evidently had more of a fanbase because it was only her second time in the sing off; which seems to be a very clear cut thing to me but I'm sure there are arguments against that logic, I can't think of any right now though.

Sharon Osbourne famously refused to vote when it was Kimberley vs Alisha in the 2007 series of the X Factor because they were both her acts; and that was another week of the X Factor shrouded in controversy because they moved the start time of the show forward 15 minutes; and Sharon's act Kimberley was first on, which she felt ruined Kimberley's chances. The X Factor is prone to making strategic cheating tactics; and the genius of it is that what they've done is extremely dubious and unfair, but I don't think has actually broken any rules that they can be accounted for. Poor Treyc!

[fruit_cake]

yeah but why did he go to Cheryl second??? so she could keep face and keep Katie.. If she'd been bothered she'd have complained and voted for deadlock after Louis had voted

[Barbie]

It is something i can imagine they would do but Dermot said before louis voted whoever he voted was going home. In fact if i remember right he said to Danni if you go with TreyC she will be going home

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Barbie

It is something i can imagine they would do but Dermot said before louis voted whoever he voted was going home. In fact if i remember right he said to Danni if you go with TreyC she will be going home

yeah, that's not the issue though, the issue is did he go to cheryl second instead of last (as would normally happen) so that they could avoid deadlock and keep Katie in cos they knew Katie was bottom?

[Barbie]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

yeah, that's not the issue though, the issue is did he go to cheryl second instead of last (as would normally happen) so that they could avoid deadlock and keep Katie in cos they knew Katie was bottom?

True, usually on a judge having 2 acts they do go to them last, because deadlock is an easy cop out. So why they didnt this time is probably to keep Katie in the competition.

Simons reasoning was stupid anyway, she's been in the bottom 2 three times! We vote to save so its not as if its just haters voting, its that she has a low fan base. So clearly people dont want to see her!

[Jack_]

There's no conspiracy over Cheryl's vote removed whatsoever. Whether it was before or after Dermot had confirmed it would then be a 'majority vote' that she had then said 'I'll take it to Deadlock' is irrelevant. Quite clearly the first answer is the once that is accepted - much like most other television shows. If Dannii had suddenly turned around, five seconds after voting to send home Katie, and said 'oh actually, I change my mind, I chose TreyC', do you honestly think they would let her change it? Or on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? - do you really think after a contestant has said 'final answer', they would be allowed to change their answer to something different? No. No they wouldn't. It's the same in most television shows - the first answer is always accepted. Here, she refused to vote, Dermot asked for confirmation and then she gave it. Her vote was then void. That's the end of it.

[Boothy]

Dermot said to Danni "If you vote TreyC, she's out." after Cheryl decided not to vote, so no, Katie would have gone.

[nanaimo]

serial killer of music maybe

[MTVN]

Cheryl has to choose an act, that's what she was asked to do, that's what she was meant to do. She cant just say "let me go last and I'll take it to deadlock" because then she wouldnt be giving her honest opinion on who she wants saved, she cant have a pre-planned intention to take it to deadlock, that wouldnt be fair.