[fruit_cake]

lol u lot can keep him and his cold eyes

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

lol u lot can keep him and his cold eyes

..his blood will start to warm again, once the last of the Palmers has left the building

[Samuel.]

He had a case of the sleepys.

[fruit_cake]

I wish we could swap him for Bobby

[Bill Carson]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I wish we could swap him for Bobby

Lol,did you see aaron in the same shot as Bobby?...he looked like a hunched over shortass dummy ffs!.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Bill Carson

Lol,did you see aaron in the same shot as Bobby?...he looked like a hunched over shortass dummy ffs!.

haha yeah he was in samuel's avatar

[psychtracker]

I hate to be a spelling nazi, by why do people continuously call Aaron - Arron?

[joeysteele]

I didn't see them as cold eyes, he asked if she needed a hug, her smile said everything but in the back of his mind now,(as it would be in mine),is the fact that her Family have really all but punched him in the face.

His feelings as he was giving her a hug resembled someone pre-occupied in thought by the negatives there now were between them but he knew she wanted and needed a hug,so he did so.

He must be massively tender now from the crushing blow from her Mum and particularly the awful Sister, who first wanted to split them up and Faye to have nothing to do with him but then as she is leaving, tells him to look out for her.
Had she left them be, Jemma would not have needed to walk likely and he and Faye may have been even closer and more relaxed in their relationship.

His eyes were then, reflecting those negative thoughts but he did seek her out, he did talk to her, he did offer a hug despite whatever hurt he felt because of her family and Faye had also avoided him since her Sister went too.

He rightly cold have been seen as being cold had he 'not' spoken to her and offered to give her a hug, now that would have been cold.
I saw sadness and hurt in his eyes not coldness and if I was him I would now be thinking why did I ever let myself get into this situation.

He maybe realises he and Faye have very little chance outside now,he will know that even more when he watches programmes back once out, the still heavy bashing, quitter Jemma, is giving him on every show she goes on.

I wish I could tell him to pull right back from Faye now,to be a good friend to her in the house certainly but once out, to run as far away as he could from that destructive family. Just even for his own sanity.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I didn't see them as cold eyes, he asked if she needed a hug, her smile said everything but in the back of his mind now,(as it would be in mine),is the fact that her Family have really all but punched him in the face.

His feelings as he was giving her a hug resembled someone pre-occupied in thought by the negatives there now were between them but he knew she wanted and needed a hug,so he did so.
He must be massively tender now from the crushing blow from her Mum and particularly the awful Sister, who first wanted to split them up and Faye to have nothing to do with him but then as she is leaving, tells him to look out for her.
Had she left them be, Jemma would not have needed to walk likely and he and Faye may have been even closer and more relaxed in their relationship.

His eyes were then, reflecting those negative thoughts but he did seek her out, he did talk to her, he did offer a hug despite whatever hurt he felt because of her family and Faye had also avoided him since her Sister went too.
He rightly cold have been seen as being cold had he 'not' spoken to her and offered to give her a hug, now that would have been cold.
I saw sadness and hurt in his eyes not coldness and if I was him I would now be thinking why did I ever let myself get into this situation.

He maybe realises he and Faye have very little chance outside now,he will know that even more when he watches programmes back once out, the still heavy bashing, quitter Jemma, is giving him on every show she goes on.

I wish I could tell him to pull right back from Faye now,to be a good friend to her in the house certainly but once out, to run as far away as he could from that destructive family. Just even for his own sanity.

...some excellent points Joey

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I didn't see them as cold eyes, he asked if she needed a hug, her smile said everything but in the back of his mind now,(as it would be in mine),is the fact that her Family have really all but punched him in the face.

His feelings as he was giving her a hug resembled someone pre-occupied in thought by the negatives there now were between them but he knew she wanted and needed a hug,so he did so.

He must be massively tender now from the crushing blow from her Mum and particularly the awful Sister, who first wanted to split them up and Faye to have nothing to do with him but then as she is leaving, tells him to look out for her.
Had she left them be, Jemma would not have needed to walk likely and he and Faye may have been even closer and more relaxed in their relationship.

His eyes were then, reflecting those negative thoughts but he did seek her out, he did talk to her, he did offer a hug despite whatever hurt he felt because of her family and Faye had also avoided him since her Sister went too.

He rightly cold have been seen as being cold had he 'not' spoken to her and offered to give her a hug, now that would have been cold.
I saw sadness and hurt in his eyes not coldness and if I was him I would now be thinking why did I ever let myself get into this situation.

He maybe realises he and Faye have very little chance outside now,he will know that even more when he watches programmes back once out, the still heavy bashing, quitter Jemma, is giving him on every show she goes on.

I wish I could tell him to pull right back from Faye now,to be a good friend to her in the house certainly but once out, to run as far away as he could from that destructive family. Just even for his own sanity.

Faye has had to live with her family all her life, he's known them for five minutes and we are supposed to feel sorry for him?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Faye has had to live with her family all her life, he's known them for five minutes and we are supposed to feel sorry for him?

No one said you have to feel sorry for him have they?I must say I feel sorry for him as he geninely likes faye,but I'm sure the family from hell has put him off big time,I'm sure it would me.He has only known her for a few weeks and in normal circumstances,they would still be at the 'getting to know each other stage'faye has got them married with 3 kids and a Range RoverPoor bloke.Wish you'de make your mind up Fruit-cake,one minute you like him,next you don't,you have the same traits as Faye!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Faye has had to live with her family all her life, he's known them for five minutes and we are supposed to feel sorry for him?

..her family have had to put up with her also..yes they've all had a cr*p deal.

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I didn't see them as cold eyes, he asked if she needed a hug, her smile said everything but in the back of his mind now,(as it would be in mine),is the fact that her Family have really all but punched him in the face.

His feelings as he was giving her a hug resembled someone pre-occupied in thought by the negatives there now were between them but he knew she wanted and needed a hug,so he did so.

He must be massively tender now from the crushing blow from her Mum and particularly the awful Sister, who first wanted to split them up and Faye to have nothing to do with him but then as she is leaving, tells him to look out for her.
Had she left them be, Jemma would not have needed to walk likely and he and Faye may have been even closer and more relaxed in their relationship.

His eyes were then, reflecting those negative thoughts but he did seek her out, he did talk to her, he did offer a hug despite whatever hurt he felt because of her family and Faye had also avoided him since her Sister went too.

He rightly cold have been seen as being cold had he 'not' spoken to her and offered to give her a hug, now that would have been cold.
I saw sadness and hurt in his eyes not coldness and if I was him I would now be thinking why did I ever let myself get into this situation.

He maybe realises he and Faye have very little chance outside now,he will know that even more when he watches programmes back once out, the still heavy bashing, quitter Jemma, is giving him on every show she goes on.

I wish I could tell him to pull right back from Faye now,to be a good friend to her in the house certainly but once out, to run as far away as he could from that destructive family. Just even for his own sanity.

Joey.
I could not have put it better well said.

[joeysteele]

Faye, hardly sees her Sister, Faye doesn't seem to care much for her Dad, no wonder she is as she is, I feel sorry for both of them.

You have made some fair comments recently fruit_cake but I see you are back to bashing Aaron time again. They are both at fault, things are rarely only just one person's fault,in that BB envrionment the problems are hugely magnified too.

Not one of my family would have totally ignored my feelings and laid into someone I liked the way Jemma, Fayes' Mum and the bf did after as you say knowing him only from the TV for 5 minutes,
Jemma wanted to control Faye from the first day she went in, Fayes main reason for rebelling against that was because she 'wanted' to be with Aaron. Jemma set out then to ruin him and their relationship.

I personally feel really sorry for Faye, her family will be interfering 'in her life, 'all her life' if she doesn't take a stand soon.
I would want to be miles away from the lot of them especially the Mother, my Mother would never,even had it been right, come on TV and be so cold and dismissive of my hopes for any possible future.

Sad we are back to the disagreeing part fruit_cake but it's never just one person's fault usually, I try to be fair.

Faye has a very unhappy life ahead with or without Aaron but that will in the end be down to her Family's interference and controlling attitude to her. Maybe they even interfered before too and that's how she got more hurt then as well.

[LivT]

Aaron is too savvy not to realise that he is being used as the proverbial, emotional punchbag... but is naturally feeling conflicted by his emotions. He is not qualified either, to be a professional councillor. The onus of lifting Fayes mood was put upon him, but he is out of his depth and Fayes deep rooted issues are not his responsibility.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LivT

Aaron is too savvy not to realise that he is being used as the proverbial, emotional punchbag... but is naturally feeling conflicted by his emotions. He is not qualified either, to be a professional councillor. The onus of lifting Fayes mood was put upon him, but he is out of his depth and Fayes deep rooted issues are not his responsibility.

That is all really true and a very fair comment.

[Tourmaline]

Originally Posted by LivT

Aaron is too savvy not to realise that he is being used as the proverbial, emotional punchbag... but is naturally feeling conflicted by his emotions. He is not qualified either, to be a professional councillor. The onus of lifting Fayes mood was put upon him, but he is out of his depth and Fayes deep rooted issues are not his responsibility.

Yes I agree with you completely there

[Beso]

After slagging her off for most of the day it was probably a cuddle full of guilt.It certainly looked as warm as an eskimos nose.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by parmnion

After slagging her off for most of the day it was probably a cuddle full of guilt.It certainly looked as warm as an eskimos nose.

How on earth has he 'slagged' her off?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by kazanne

How on earth has he 'slagged' her off?

.Didn't you see him to harry and the viewers saying how she changed as soon as she heard she was up for eviction..that to me is a clear plea to the fans, insinuating that she's game playing..

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by parmnion

.Didn't you see him to harry and the viewers saying how she changed as soon as she heard she was up for eviction..that to me is a clear plea to the fans, insinuating that she's game playing..

Hows that 'slagging her off'??

She DID change as soon as she heard she was up for eviction!

[Beso]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Hows that 'slagging her off'??

She DID change as soon as she heard she was up for eviction!

Only because of the pep talk from Jem. and not because she was game playing as aaron would have us believe..

[joeysteele]

I don't think people should bring Aaron's son into this debate, his son has never been part of the show in person at all and according to Aarons wife does not watch the show.

She clearly thinks Aaron is a great Dad to their son,that's all that matters and his wife will know far more than we do.

[coralqueen]

i dont believe his eyes where cold looking, just a case of, (what am i going to do next)!!

[tonyface]

Faye needs to be careful, I said early on that Aaron looks like Jeffrey Dahmer.
Those same cold piercing eyes.......



If she ends up as a bowl of soup one day, dont say I did'nt warn you.....