[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jezzy

I agree with looking at it from both sides like you Niamh, maybe he is guilty, but there is nothing in the evidence presented to us yet that would suggest so...it is awfully difficult to bring about an historic conviction like this

Yeah definitely, if she's lying it's an evil thing to do but if she's telling the truth then I hope she gets some justice. I would imagine a sex crime like this is extremely difficult to prove though so many years after the event

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah definitely, if she's lying it's an evil thing to do but if she's telling the truth then I hope she gets some justice.

100%.

[Nedusa]

You would have to think it is extremely unlikely given the time that has passed since the alleged incidents that any Jury could possibly prove beyond a reasonable doubt Mr Roache's guilt.

Methinks another massive NOT guilty verdict and cheers all round before the big lavish Coronation Street return party......

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

You would have to think it is extremely unlikely given the time that has passed since the alleged incidents that any Jury could possibly prove beyond a reasonable doubt Mr Roache's guilt.

Methinks another massive NOT guilty verdict and cheers all round before the big lavish Coronation Street return party......

Looks like this is exactly what happened........struggling to understand how 6 different woman can suddenly remember these alleged incidents. Their memories were probably jogged by the publicity surrounding the Jimmy Savile case.

What is harder to understand is how the DPP decided this was ever a prosecutable case............?????

[Crimson Dynamo]

she was "raped" but them met with him again and found her self alone with him in his gaff?


Sorry but unless she was witnesses this aint gonna fly

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Catweazel

she was "raped" but them met with him again and found her self alone with him in his gaff?


Sorry but unless she was witnesses this aint gonna fly

I thought this too - she claims force for the first incident, and yet, was alone with him again for a second incident? This suggests that both incidents were consentual, in my opinion.

HOWEVER - she was star-struck and underage. This is still illegal. If he did have any sexual activity with her, he is still guilty, as he was a man in his 30s and should have known better.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I thought this too - she claims force for the first incident, and yet, was alone with him again for a second incident? This suggests that both incidents were consentual, in my opinion.

HOWEVER - she was star-struck and underage. This is still illegal. If he did have any sexual activity with her, he is still guilty, as he was a man in his 30s and should have known better.

I dunno, I guess it could have been that she felt she had to do what he said because she was in awe of him and just wanted to be around him but I just don't know if I buy into these accusations... why would you wait 50 odd years?

[Jezzy]

The latest is that she is claiming another Coronation Street actor, Peter Adamson (deceased) warned her about Mr. Roache and his wicked ways.

a) This is impossible to corroborate and should be completely disregarded
b) This is the same Peter Adamson that lost his job with the street because of the following allegation:

"On 24 April 1983, a Sunday newspaper reported that Adamson had been arrested for indecently assaulting two eight-year old girls in a public swimming pool in Haslingden where he had assisted as a part-time instructor. One was allegedly assaulted the day before, the other on 16 April. The police complaint alleged that Adamson's hands had strayed while giving the girls swimming lessons.
He was represented by the barrister George Carman QC, who had a prominent career defending celebrities. On 26 July 1983, a Crown Court jury found Adamson not guilty. The following year, after his wife's death and still suffering financial woes and drinking problems, he was allegedly persuaded by freelance Sun reporter Dan Slater to change his story following several bottles of whisky. Adamson was alleged to have told Slater "I am totally guilty of everything the police said"...."But what I hope you will print - there was no sexual intent."
As a result, Lincolnshire Police interviewed Adamson who categorically denied the confession. No charges were made against him."

[arista]

Courts: He is not guilty of All Charges


On all news now


http://news.sky.com/story/1207537/wi...ict-not-guilty

[Black Dagger]

Great!

Hopefully the same outcome for DLT and Rolf Harris. I hate bad outcomes regarding these situations.

[Livia]

Of course, the accuser will retain her anonimity while Roache's reputation is smeared forever and his career is probably over. There will be people who assume that there's no smoke without fire, so he's damned for all time. It's a sad state of affairs.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

Of course, the accuser will retain her anonimity while Roache's reputation is smeared forever and his career is probably over. There will be people who assume that there's no smoke without fire, so he's damned for all time. It's a sad state of affairs.

a very fair and reasonable point. There is everything to gain for those who are rotten enough to make things up for monetary reward. its hard to believe but some people actually do this. christine and neil hamilton had that and the false accuser did go to jail. there really needs to be more justice meeted out for false accusers imo

[arista]

ITV should put him back in the soap

[MTVN]

Great news, bring back Ken Barlow asap

[arista]

He has just spoken Live on all TVNews and Radio

he wants to get back to work aged 81

[Cherie]

Great news he has been proven innocent by a Jury so that is an end to it. Bring back Ken and his Kimono.

[HD]

Great outcome, but sad this means he will be returning to Corrie :/

[Vicky.]

Honestly, I think the majority of accusations now are simply for the compensation. Thats not to say there arent some genuine victims out there, but I fully believe that most of them are liars and just after cash. No way would thousands of people keep quiet for 50 years or whatever then decide to come out

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Honestly, I think the majority of accusations now are simply for the compensation. Thats not to say there arent some genuine victims out there, but I fully believe that most of them are liars and just after cash. No way would thousands of people keep quiet for 50 years or whatever then decide to come out

I was thinking this, I think it's going to happen a lot more in the future sadly.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Honestly, I think the majority of accusations now are simply for the compensation. Thats not to say there arent some genuine victims out there, but I fully believe that most of them are liars and just after cash. No way would thousands of people keep quiet for 50 years or whatever then decide to come out

Yes the Legal Deals tempt so many

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Honestly, I think the majority of accusations now are simply for the compensation. Thats not to say there arent some genuine victims out there, but I fully believe that most of them are liars and just after cash. No way would thousands of people keep quiet for 50 years or whatever then decide to come out

Sadly I have to agree. This is such damaging stuff. Something needs to change. Protection until found guilty.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Honestly, I think the majority of accusations now are simply for the compensation. Thats not to say there arent some genuine victims out there, but I fully believe that most of them are liars and just after cash. No way would thousands of people keep quiet for 50 years or whatever then decide to come out

I am so pleased that Bill was found NOT guilty and I have been rooting for him all along. He is a fine example of what dignigty is all about. I also agree with your comments Vicky and whilst it will be a sad day for those who were genuinely abused in their younger years and feel they will not be believed years later, it is the avalanche of those jumping on the Jimmy saville bandwagon that is making it difficult for them to speak out.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by muchadoaboutnothing

I am so pleased that Bill was found NOT guilty and I have been rooting for him all along. He is a fine example of what dignigty is all about. I also agree with your comments Vicky and whilst it will be a sad day for those who were genuinely abused in their younger years and feel they will not be believed years later, it is the avalanche of those jumping on the Jimmy saville bandwagon that is making it difficult for them to speak out.

This is one of the most annoying things about all this post-Saville madness, aside from ruined reputations, it also makes it harder for actual victims to come forward, because they fear they wont be believed. Though I'm a Corrie fan, I watched the news of it all objectively, as there could have been a chance that he did it, it'd have been unfair to just write it off because I like him as Ken Barlow. I think there needs to be a change in the legal system to protect the accused party's privacy.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Chewy

This is one of the most annoying things about all this post-Saville madness, aside from ruined reputations, it also makes it harder for actual victims to come forward, because they fear they wont be believed. Though I'm a Corrie fan, I watched the news of it all objectively, as there could have been a chance that he did it, it'd have been unfair to just write it off because I like him as Ken Barlow. I think there needs to be a change in the legal system to protect the accused party's privacy.

At the risk of sounding really harsh..I dont really think people should be believed really if they wait half a century to speak up, and then do it in groups.

IIRC some of the saville victims reported it to the police at the time but were ignored, THOSE people I have time for. Anyone who waits until 50 years later and mention of compensation in the press..well...

[Z]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

At the risk of sounding really harsh..I dont really think people should be believed really if they wait half a century to speak up, and then do it in groups.

IIRC some of the saville victims reported it to the police at the time but were ignored, THOSE people I have time for. Anyone who waits until 50 years later and mention of compensation in the press..well...

I completely agree with you Vicky.