[Jamesy]

If Coleen wanted to discuss that she could have acted like an adult and discussed it behind the cameras. Trying to bring it up in front of the cameras just came across as desperate and petty.

I kinda hope Katie gets an interview or another show in the next few weeks, one where she can discuss her time in the house rather than have a group of middle aged women try and attack her and change the subject.

[joeysteele]

What worries me as to her that when she gets support, she will likely become even more deluded as to thinking her way is the 'only' right way.

I would be massively worried for the UK if more and more people supported her vile,heartless views and thought genuinely that the people she ridicules and condemns deserve to be.

I agree with Vanessa,she is beyond defence because she has no 'official' statistics or even medical know how to back up her rotten vile, heartless comments.
Just pure spite and prejudice, she does get me angry because she is a rotten human being in my view, and I for one would love to really shout her down and expose her lies and rottenness as to people she has no real idea what they are really going through.
Yet can judge, comdemn and belittle so easily,albeit greatly wrongly.

[Helen 28]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

What worries me as to her that when she gets support, she will likely become even more deluded as to thinking her way is the 'only' right way.

I would be massively worried for the UK if more and more people supported her vile,heartless views and thought genuinely that the people she ridicules and condemns deserve to be.

I agree with Vanessa,she is beyond defence because she has no 'official' statistics or even medical know how to back up her rotten vile, heartless comments.
Just pure spite and prejudice, she does get me angry because she is a rotten human being in my view, and I for one would love to really shout her down and expose her lies and rottenness as to people she has no real idea what they are really going through.
Yet can judge, comdemn and belittle so easily,albeit greatly wrongly.

Exactly what lies has she told ?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Helen 28

Exactly what lies has she told ?

That all those on benefits are scroungers,when official statistics prove her wrong,
That the overweight people can sort themselves out, just because she 'voluntarily',put on a few pounds then took it off.
She doesn't realise that people overweight can be so due to medical conditions, that those who are diabetic,for instance, can find they gain weight if they are on high doses of insulin.

She says it is all their fault and there is no need to be.

That children given names , like Tyler or Charmaine are likely to come from bad or poor backgrounds,she would actually judge chidren on what first names they have.
Another massive lie and misrepresention of children and their families.

That people with cancer would be better doing something to keep them occupied as to some work, rather than wallowing in their condition.
Not realising that those who need chemotherapy are often really debilitated by the chemo and can hardly be bothered to chat let alone do any work.

Do you want me to go on, she makes vile, uninformed judgements from her prejudices and heartlessness and loves to do so,she plays on it and makes loads of money, amazingly from it too.
Virtually none of her rotten views and opinions stand up to independent and informed scrutiny.

You may admire her hard line and heartless cruel judgements and prejudices but I for one never will and I would take away her stage of publcity to be able to spout her venom too.

When you don't have the official scrutiny as to thingsm when you only hols your own view froma prejudiced position but then present that as facts publicly then that is lying and a gross misrepresentation.

When she is challenged by independent informed scrutiny and the right and genuine figures as to those on benefits, the sick and disabled and those overweight and as to children with certain names too.
She just smirks and dismisses all of it as wrong because only she can be right.
She will never admit she is wrong, or that she has made a bad judgement like most decent people would.
That is why she is a liar and for me a rather dangerous one too.
All powers that be help any society that in the main thinks like Katie Hopkins and supports her prejudices.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

That all those on benefits are scroungers,when official statistics prove her wrong,
That the overweight people can sort themselves out, just because she 'voluntarily',put on a few pounds then took it off.
She doesn't realise that people overweight can be so due to medical conditions, that those who are diabetic,for instance, can find they gain weight if they are on high doses of insulin.

She says it is all their fault and there is no need to be.

That children given names , like Tyler or Charmaine are likely to come from bad or poor backgrounds,she would actually judge chidren on what first names they have.
Another massive lie and misrepresention of children and their families.

That people with cancer would be better doing something to keep them occupied as to some work, rather than wallowing in their condition.
Not realising that those who need chemotherapy are often really debilitated by the chemo and can hardly be bothered to chat let alone do any work.

Do you want me to go on, she makes vile, uninformed judgements from her prejudices and heartlessness and loves to do so,she plays on it and makes loads of money, amazingly from it too.
Virtually none of her rotten views and opinions stand up to independent and informed scrutiny.

You may admire her hard line and heartless cruel judgements and prejudices but I for one never will and I would take away her stage of publcity to be able to spout her venom too.

When you don't have the official scrutiny as to thingsm when you only hols your own view froma prejudiced position but then present that as facts publicly then that is lying and a gross misrepresentation.

When she is challenged by independent informed scrutiny and the right and genuine figures as to those on benefits, the sick and disabled and those overweight and as to children with certain names too.
She just smirks and dismisses all of it as wrong because only she can be right.
She will never admit she is wrong, or that she has made a bad judgement like most decent people would.
That is why she is a liar and for me a rather dangerous one too.
All powers that be help any society that in the main thinks like Katie Hopkins and supports her prejudices.

She has no empathy and actually enjoys hurting people and THIS i can never support.

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She has no empathy and actually enjoys hurting people and THIS i can never support.

Yes, this describes how both Hopkins AND Perez acted in the house...with a difference. For every negative thing that Hopkins did in the house...Perez did it a hundred times worse. It's like Perez was some exaggerated, evil clown version of Hopkins.

I think the only reason that most of Perez fans love him is because he hates Hopkins (not all fans, but most)...how else can you slag off Hopkins for doing something hateful and love Perez for doing it more.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

What worries me as to her that when she gets support, she will likely become even more deluded as to thinking her way is the 'only' right way.

I would be massively worried for the UK if more and more people supported her vile,heartless views and thought genuinely that the people she ridicules and condemns deserve to be.

I agree with Vanessa,she is beyond defence because she has no 'official' statistics or even medical know how to back up her rotten vile, heartless comments.
Just pure spite and prejudice, she does get me angry because she is a rotten human being in my view, and I for one would love to really shout her down and expose her lies and rottenness as to people she has no real idea what they are really going through.
Yet can judge, comdemn and belittle so easily,albeit greatly wrongly.

Joey I respect your views as you know,but don't you like Perez? if so ,do you know some of the vile things he has got under his belt ? this annoys me as people seem to overlook his vile ways but condemn hers.Why?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Joey I respect your views as you know,but don't you like Perez? if so ,do you know some of the vile things he has got under his belt ? this annoys me as people seem to overlook his vile ways but condemn hers.Why?

That's what i don't get as well, he has said much worse things than Hopkins ever has imo, but they're always get pushed aside in favour of hatred towards Katie, it's bizarre how some people could be so blinded by one sided perspective.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

That's what i don't get as well, he has said much worse things than Hopkins ever has imo, but they always pushed aside in favour of hatred towards Katie, it's bizarre how some people could be so blinded by one sided perspective.

Yes,they seem to have brushed it all aside and conveniently forgotten what he is ?

[Helen 28]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Joey I respect your views as you know,but don't you like Perez? if so ,do you know some of the vile things he has got under his belt ? this annoys me as people seem to overlook his vile ways but condemn hers.Why?

Women haters and gay lovers I presume.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Joey I respect your views as you know,but don't you like Perez? if so ,do you know some of the vile things he has got under his belt ? this annoys me as people seem to overlook his vile ways but condemn hers.Why?

Kazanne, I have fought against prejudice that is wrong and unfounded ever since I was 15,no matter who does it.
I also have not overlooked his wrongs, in the house if you read back throught he threads you will see I said when he was wrong in things he had said and done.

I don't judge children on their first names as being of a lower class, I don't think people with cancer should be made to be occupied with some work to keep them busy.
I don't believe, and I also know from the work I have done with people on benefits, that what she says when generalising aout them is wrong and misleading,in fact pure lies some of it.

I also don't judge people that are overweight as people to be written off either like she does.
I have a relative,a nd know of others, who are diabetic, it was not controlled properly, they were put on high doses of insulin,their weight rocketed.
Katie Hopkins would dismiss that,having likely little knowledge of diabetes but still speaking prejudicially as to those overweight, putting them altogether as lazy, not doing the right things, generalising as to them all.

I have intensely disliked Katie Hopkins ever since I came across her and even moreso when I was in the audience of a debate she was taking part in and heard her vile judgements and condemnations of others,especially the sick and disabled, mainly of people she sees as far lower class.

Perez, I found entertaining, he was childish, ridiculous, over the top but I found him entertaining.I have never ever said I liked him as a person but give me Perez with his childish hyperactive antics anyday as opposed Katie Hopkins.

I am stunned at the people who do support and like her,Perez in the main attacked celebrities,she chooses regularly to insult and judge and really bring down people who are far weaker and poorer than her as to status.

I hope in all my life I will always take a stand against the likes of Katie Hopkins,I hate with a passion anyone who is uncompromising and full of hateful heartless prejudiced opinion that she holds to whole sections of society.
I hope I never lose sight of that and never come to support anyone like that either no matter where they may be or what they are doing.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Kazanne, I have fought against prejudice that is wrong and unfounded ever since I was 15,no matter who does it.
I also have not overlooked his wrongs, in the house if you read back throught he threads you will see I said when he was wrong in things he had said and done.

I don't judge children on their first names as being of a lower class, I don't think people with cancer should be made to be occupied with some work to keep them busy.
I don't believe, and I also know from the work I have done with people on benefits, that what she says when generalising aout them is wrong and misleading,in fact pure lies some of it.

I also don't judge people that are overweight as people to be written off either like she does.
I have a relative,a nd know of others, who are diabetic, it was not controlled properly, they were put on high doses of insulin,their weight rocketed.
Katie Hopkins would dismiss that,having likely little knowledge of diabetes but still speaking prejudicially as to those overweight, putting them altogether as lazy, not doing the right things, generalising as to them all.

I have intensely disliked Katie Hopkins ever since I came across her and even moreso when I was in the audience of a debate she was taking part in and heard her vile judgements and condemnations of others,especially the sick and disabled, mainly of people she sees as far lower class.

Perez, I found entertaining, he was childish, ridiculous, over the top but I found him entertaining.I have never ever said I liked him as a person but give me Perez with his childish hyperactive antics anyday as opposed Katie Hopkins.

I am stunned at the people who do support and like her,Perez in the main attacked celebrities,she chooses regularly to insult and judge and really bring down people who are far weaker and poorer than her as to status.

I hope in all my life I will always take a stand against the likes of Katie Hopkins,I hate with a passion anyone who is uncompromising and full of hateful heartless prejudiced opinion that she holds to whole sections of society.
I hope I never lose sight of that and never come to support anyone like that either no matter where they may be or what they are doing.

Joey quoted your question and responded Kaz

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Joey quoted your question and responded Kaz

Thanks Annie,I'll PM him this could be a long one I love Joey and respect his views though

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Joey quoted your question and responded Kaz

I couldn't have made it big enough could I.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Joey I respect your views as you know,but don't you like Perez? if so ,do you know some of the vile things he has got under his belt ? this annoys me as people seem to overlook his vile ways but condemn hers.Why?

But that's also true if you flip it....katie hopkins overlook her behaviour.

As someone who doesn't like either it's quite amusing to see.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

But that's also true if you flip it....katie hopkins overlook her behaviour.

As someone who doesn't like either it's quite amusing to see.

I'm not overlooking it though,she was too harsh with some stuff she said,but the question was,Why are Perez fans overlooking his vile behaviour,still no answer to this.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I'm not overlooking it though,she was too harsh with some stuff she said,but the question was,Why are Perez fans overlooking his vile behaviour,still no answer to this.

You'd have to ask his fans and I think Joey did answer. I was specifically meaning you but a lot fans on both sides are guilty of rose tinted specs where their favourites are concerned

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I'm not overlooking it though,she was too harsh with some stuff she said,but the question was,Why are Perez fans overlooking his vile behaviour,still no answer to this.

For myself, I have answered that point and at great length too as you requested.

I repeat again, there were many things I disliked as to Perez's behaviour, I saw his behaviour as hyperactive and childish but I found it more entertaining than hers.

I knew of him, but little of him before he went in the house but I knew more about her, none of which I liked.
If you read my posts at the start of this series you would have found I went as far as I could to give her the benefit of the doubt but then her mask slipped.

I have however in fact answered so you have had an answer from some with respect.
I also feel more of us who supported Perez 'against her', have seen far more of his wrongs and faults and said so,than has been pointed as to the faults and wrongs of Katie Hopkins.

[Marsh.]

"I went in as the most hated Celebrity Big Brother candidate ever".


No, love. You weren't.

[Kazanne]

Joey,I hope you are going to answer my question? I would be interested in your response.

[Johnnyuk123]

Katie Hopkins was absolutely brilliant! She nailed em! Well done Katie Hopkins the nations sweetheart!

[Johnnyuk123]

Fat Annoydia will creep/wobble back in the studio tomorrow to slag off Katie Hopkins again.

[Marsh.]

Priding herself on never requiring medical assistance, advice, help of any kind.

Yet she had the privilege of a private bedroom away from the cameras, a laptop and god knows what else.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Priding herself on never requiring medical assistance, advice, help of any kind.

Yet she had the privilege of a private bedroom away from the cameras, a laptop and god knows what else.

And probably internet access. She was also allowed to sleep in the afternoon.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

And probably internet access. She was also allowed to sleep in the afternoon.

Vanessa it is easy to find out the actual TRUTH about internet access. It's online already. Katie had no internet access and she also slept in a room by herself because she has epilepsy. Which she never used as a tool in the house to gain sympathy.