[Crimson Dynamo]

Get him on Tibb and he can learn how to deal with Life without hurting others

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why would you think that?

Homophobia can come in all shapes and sizes. Sometimes you don't even realise you're doing it, such as noticing someone in the street and thinking "I bet he's gay", or when someone says something and you say "that's so gay!" or "you're so gay lol!" I think everyone has a streak of homophobia in their subconscious. I find things such as "gay best friends" homophobic... wanting to go shopping with a boy "because they're gay they must like shopping". Stuff like that.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Homophobia can come in all shapes and sizes. Sometimes you don't even realise you're doing it, such as noticing someone in the street and thinking "I bet he's gay", or when someone says something and you say "that's so gay!" or "you're so gay lol!" I think everyone has a streak of homophobia in their subconscious. I find things such as "gay best friends" homophobic... wanting to go shopping with a boy "because they're gay they must like shopping". Stuff like that.

Thinking "I bet he's gay" isn't homophobic though, it's just an observation. Also, I've never thought because someone is gay that they automatically like shopping, in much the same way as I don't assume that all girls like shopping either, since I detest shopping myself. Things like that are stereotypes though not examples of homophobia or sexism. Also, that's so gay phrase I've only ever heard people online use tbh

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Homophobia can come in all shapes and sizes. Sometimes you don't even realise you're doing it, such as noticing someone in the street and thinking "I bet he's gay", or when someone says something and you say "that's so gay!" or "you're so gay lol!" I think everyone has a streak of homophobia in their subconscious. I find things such as "gay best friends" homophobic... wanting to go shopping with a boy "because they're gay they must like shopping". Stuff like that.

None of those examples are homophobic

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Thinking "I bet he's gay" isn't homophobic though, it's just an observation. Also, I've never thought because someone is gay that they automatically like shopping, in much the same way as I don't assume that all girls like shopping either, since I detest shopping myself. Things like that are stereotypes though not examples of homophobia or sexism. Also, that's so gay phrase I've only ever heard people online use tbh

Hm, it's just something I've had thoughts about. I think thinks like homophobia and racism exist in one's subconscious and "true" homophobia that we know today comes when the detestation is stronger, and the homophobia moves from the subconscious to your basic awareness.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

None of those examples are homophobic

Well then you're just going to have to accept the difference of opinions.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Homophobia can come in all shapes and sizes. Sometimes you don't even realise you're doing it, such as noticing someone in the street and thinking "I bet he's gay", or when someone says something and you say "that's so gay!" or "you're so gay lol!" I think everyone has a streak of homophobia in their subconscious. I find things such as "gay best friends" homophobic... wanting to go shopping with a boy "because they're gay they must like shopping". Stuff like that.

That's gay stereotyping not homophobia.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That's gay stereotyping not homophobia.

Well, I think there's a little bit of homophobia in stereotyping.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Hm, it's just something I've had thoughts about. I think thinks like homophobia and racism exist in one's subconscious and "true" homophobia that we know today comes when the detestation is stronger, and the homophobia moves from the subconscious to your basic awareness.

I don't agree with that at all, homophobia and racism are things that are learned from other people and their opinions, like family members, friends etc

[Liam-]

'everyone is a little bit homophobic' sounds like something a homophobe would say to ease their mind.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Well, I think there's a little bit of homophobia in stereotyping.

I guess you're entitled to believe that, racial stereotyping is what got the police labelled 'institutionally racist'.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

'everyone is a little bit homophobic' sounds like something a homophobe would say to ease their mind.

I'm just being psychological.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I'm just being psychological.

Thinking that someone might be gay though. I don't get how that makes you homophobic in anyway Like if a gay person is in a gay club and he sees a guy and thinks "I bet he's actually straight" does that make him hetraphobic? lol like homophobia means a fear or dislike of homosexuals, so having a gay best friend is surely the complete opposite of that?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I'm just being psychological.

You could apply that logic to everything mind, if you're a male you could be a little bit sexist, if white a little bit racist. If you assume there is prejudice in everyone.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Thinking that someone might be gay though. I don't get how that makes you homophobic in anyway Like if a gay person is in a gay club and he sees a guy and thinks "I bet he's actually straight" does that make him hetraphobic? lol like homophobia means a fear or dislike of homosexuals, so having a gay best friend is surely the complete opposite of that?

Oh no that's a completely different observation. My point is that homophobia exists in everyone. The examples were just separate thoughts.

[Daniel.]

I hate it when girls say to me "oh you're my gay best friend now, I've always wanted one"

cringe af .

[Daniel.]

I hate it when girls say to me "oh you're my gay best friend now, I've always wanted one"

cringe af ..

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You could apply that logic to everything mind, if you're a male you could be a little bit sexist, if white a little bit racist. If you assume there is prejudice in everyone.

That's exactly what I'm saying. I was going to say that but didn't really know how to explain it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Oh no that's a completely different observation. My point is that homophobia exists in everyone. The examples were just separate thoughts.

But why do you think it exists in everyone then if not by those examples? I don't think I'm in anyway homophobic

[Liam-]

I'm not prejudice in the slightest, so let's not say everyone is tah

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

But why do you think it exists in everyone then if not by those examples? I don't think I'm in anyway homophobic

I just think homophobia is occupied in the brain. The BiB is completely understandable, as you're not aware of anything that lies in the subconscious.

Think of it as Pandora's box. All things bad are stored in there, and it would take a great nudge to get them out. It's why people do bad things when they're grieving. The grief is enough to unlock the bad side of you.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I'm not prejudice in the slightest, so let's not say everyone is tah

Yeah I don't understand how a person can tell everyone else what's going on in their own minds tbh based on what they might think themselves

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I'm not prejudice in the slightest, so let's not say everyone is tah

You're always going to judge someone though, Liam, even if you don't realise you're doing it. It's like when you meet someone who you've only seen through photos, and you say to them "oh, you looked taller in your photos!" You judged them - you expected them to be tall. That's just one example.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

That's exactly what I'm saying. I was going to say that but didn't really know how to explain it.

Well we are all a product of our environment, so from a sociological perspective I would say that being innately prejudiced isn't possible.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I just think homophobia is occupied in the brain. The BiB is completely understandable, as you're not aware of anything that lies in the subconscious.

Think of it as Pandora's box. All things bad are stored in there, and it would take a great nudge to get them out. It's why people do bad things when they're grieving. The grief is enough to unlock the bad side of you.

I like the way you're explaining it to me like it's an actual fact I know what the subconscious is and I still disagree with you