[Johnnyuk123]

If tomorrows headlines front page said...Kerry Katona slept for 3 days inside a whale in the north sea at the bottom of the ocean and lived to tell the tale we would all laugh.Even with picture evidence we would still laugh about it BUT remove KERRY KATONAS name from that headline and replace it with JESUS and people would take it as truth.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I agree with you on that. But it is defo in there as is the talking snake and the man who lived inside a whale at the bottom of the ocean for 3 days and another man who parted the sea by waving his hands at the ocean.

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

If tomorrows headlines front page said...Kerry Katona slept for 3 days inside a whale in the north sea at the bottom of the ocean and lived to tell the tale we would all laugh.Even with picture evidence we would still laugh about it BUT remove KERRY KATONAS name from that headline and replace it with JESUS and people would take it as truth.

I'm so glad you know how to use google but I'm afraid that doesn't warrant a thread in serious debates.

[Livia]

You're all free to believe what you believe. Shalom, people.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Livia

You're all free to believe what you believe. Shalom, people.

..Shalom baby....

[bots]

The argument being made by the OP seems to relate to the fact that a historical book appears to contain inaccuracies if examined with today's knowledge. Should the book be re-written making it more accurate?

My answer would be no, because it would then no longer be an historical work.

The other aspect is that in today's newspapers do we regard every word written to be the absolute truth? No, of course we don't. It is up to the reader to form their own opinion based on the knowledge that they have. Why should any religious text be treated any differently.

[Ashley.]

Santa is nothing to do with religion lmao, it's an ancient myth that parents comply with once a year to give their children something to smile about.

[Northern Monkey]

I think people should be free to believe whatever they choose.We in the west are supposed to live in a free society after all.
When people are forced to believe a certain ideology(*cough Muslims in Arabic countries*) then i have a problem with it.
Also when religion guides people to kill people and blow **** up then i also have a problem with it.
Or when religion stirs up hatred for peoples sexuality or way of life(*cough Islam*) then i have a problem with it.
One mans religion should never infringe on anybody else.It's a personal thing.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I think people should be free to believe whatever they choose.We in the west are supposed to live in a free society after all.
When people are forced to believe a certain ideology(*cough Muslims in Arabic countries*) then i have a problem with it.
Also when religion guides people to kill people and blow **** up then i also have a problem with it.
Or when religion stirs up hatred for peoples sexuality or way of life(*cough Islam*) then i have a problem with it.
One mans religion should never infringe on anybody else.It's a personal thing.

Are you including the reformation in this?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Are you including the reformation in this?

Correct me if i'm wrong but that was 500 years ago?
It does'nt quite fit with the thread title 'Should any religion be taken seriously in the year 2015?'

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Correct me if i'm wrong but that was 500 years ago?
It does'nt quite fit with the thread title 'Should any religion be taken seriously in the year 2015?'

You are confused truly, the premise of religion is that you should follow a book/books constructed millennia ago is it not?
It's as apt now as it was then, used as a tool of social control by the powers that be and little more.

[lostalex]

no. religions should all face constant public ridicule. Watching the pope visit america i thought it was the most ridiculous spectacle i've seen in a lone time.

[Crimson Dynamo]

keep it out of schools, out of politics and if people want to believe things like this, principally because it what their parents told them, grand

It should get no favour nor respect unless earned like anything else


and in schools it can be covered in perhaps 2 history lessons only.


simples

[Kizzy]

I have an unshakable faith, yet I find it almost impossible to forgive the atrocities committed in the name of religion, or by those using religion as a cover for their deviancy, it's this that colours my view.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I have an unshakable faith, yet I find it almost impossible to forgive the atrocities committed in the name of religion, or by those using religion as a cover for their deviancy, it's this that colours my view.

The fact that you can manipulate it to any means (as witnessed now and before) is the reason. The fact that no gods exist means that you have no come back and any nutter can just say "yes but it is what god wants"

You can also use this to persuade suicide bombers with the carrot of heaven and of course, again, no comeback.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

I live in an islamic country and i am in minority. Since 3rd/4th grade i have had religion lessons every year and in turkey there are LOTS of religion schools and it does bother me because they are showing it down our throats. Also in june during lgbt pride they wrote pretty nasty words online and they stopped the pride because it happened during their religious holiday. And when it is time for their holidays we never disrespected them like they disrespect us.

It bothers me the way they are living their religion because they have no right to make other people uncomfortable because they are diffrent. So i think they should remove religion lessons from schools specially from middle school because young teenagers get manipulated and they dont decide what they are going to believe.

Religions are supposed to make people happy and they are supposed to guide people to do good things, they are not supposed to make people hate each other and make the world hell for the others. (ahem muslim countries)

With that being said religion can be a good thing or a bad thing and i feel like if i attack people or look down on people/religions then i am no better than them. I dont want anyone to feel bad or looked down based on who they are or what they believe.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MelihV

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

I live in an islamic country and i am in minority. Since 3rd/4th grade i have had religion lessons every year and in turkey there are LOTS of religion schools and it does bother me because they are showing it down our throats. Also in june during lgbt pride they wrote pretty nasty words online and they stopped the pride because it happened during their religious holiday. And when it is time for their holidays we never disrespected them like they disrespect us.

It bothers me the way they are living their religion because they have no right to make other people uncomfortable because they are diffrent. So i think they should remove religion lessons from schools specially from middle school because young teenagers get manipulated and they dont decide what they are going to believe.

Religions are supposed to make people happy and they are supposed to guide people to do good things, they are not supposed to make people hate each other and make the world hell for the others. (ahem muslim countries)

With that being said religion can be a good thing or a bad thing and i feel like if i attack people or look down on people/religions then i am no better than them. I dont want anyone to feel bad or looked down based on who they are or what they believe.

Very nicely put

[Kizzy]

When it's your faith that inspires love, hope, trust, compassion, empathy, charity, friendship.. then great. When its fear, hate, distrust, ignorance, suppression, oppression and repression then there's something amiss.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

When it's your faith that inspires love, hope, trust, compassion, empathy, charity, friendship.. then great. When its fear, hate, distrust, ignorance, suppression, oppression and repression then there's something amiss.

religion doesn't inspire any of those things. all of those things exist without religion kizzy. religion is a scam for money and power. when you show me a religion that doesn't give anyone any kind of money and power, then i'll have an open mind about it, but i've never heard of a religion that doesn't claim any kind of money or power from it's followers.

[Daniel-X]

Can someone close this thread please it's painful and discrimatory to people who believe in the religion e.g myself as a Christian

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Daniel-X

Can someone close this thread please it's painful and discrimatory to people who believe in the religion e.g myself as a Christian

are you crying? are you so upset that you are crying like an upset baby? Do you need your mommy to protect you?

Grow up. this is a forum for adults. If you can't handle it, then go to church and hide underneath a priests robes. he'd like that i'm sure.

[Daniel-X]

Originally Posted by lostalex

are you crying? are you so upset that you are crying like an upset baby? Do you need your mommy to protect you?

No I'm not ****ing crying thank you very much! Don't be so ****ing rude! I don't need my mum to protect me at all.

Stop baiting

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Daniel-X

No I'm not ****ing crying thank you very much! Don't be so ****ing rude! I don't need my mum to protect me at all.

Stop baiting

then stop trying to silence others just because you are so fragile and upset.

this is a very ;large forum, if you don't like this thread then there are plenty of other threads to join, there are even some threads about disney movies, maybe you'd feel more comfortable there.

Stop trying to shut down other people's opinions about religion though.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by lostalex

then stop trying to silence others just because you are so fragile and upset.

I think you're the fragile one who can't accept that not everyone has the same anti-religious attitudes, maybe you ought to stop pushing that down everyone's throats.

[Daniel-X]

Originally Posted by lostalex

then stop trying to silence others just because you are so fragile and upset.

Lmao I am not fragile and upset do you seriously think I am crying in a corner because two people who I don't even know are calling a religion.

I just think you're extremely and ignorant and rude. Maybe keep your views to yourself because I don't think anyone else is interested

[Daniel-X]

Originally Posted by lostalex

then stop trying to silence others just because you are so fragile and upset.

this is a very ;large forum, if you don't like this thread then there are plenty of other threads to join, there are even some threads about disney movies, maybe you'd feel more comfortable there.

Stop trying to shut down other people's opinions about religion though.

Don't you dare try and patronise me, who the hell do you think you are?!

I am not I just think this thread is extremely discrimatory and prejudiced taking the piss out of Catholics etc it's not right!