[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

She's not trying to leave him though, she is publically trying to (as Jeremy put it ) have her cake and eat it too. As I said I doubt anyone would give a crap without her blaming everyone else bar herself for it, and snivelling all over the place about how much she 'loves' Sam.

mmhhmm, actions speak louder than words. You don't treat the person you love with such callousness. If all this scenario is actually genuine and not just some plot concocted by their agent, then she's a horrible bitch, not only cheating on her b/f but doing it knowing that he's actually watching

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

She's not trying to leave him though, she is publically trying to (as Jeremy put it ) have her cake and eat it too. As I said I doubt anyone would give a crap without her blaming everyone else bar herself for it, and snivelling all over the place about how much she 'loves' Sam.

Well she's gone into a house with locked doors and jumped into bed with another bloke....if that's not leaving him it's a pretty good impression ....but I don't judge her for doing that myself, I judge her for having such a prick for a boyfriend on the outside
And you are correct about the way she's handling it...if she does said bollox to everyone and made a clear decision about her own life then quite a few people wouldn't care what she got up to
I wish she'd go into the diary room and dump her fella...then no one in the house could say anything more to her about it

[hot2go]

But the reality of this situation is that the boy friend is prick anyway.....and really doesn't deserve anyone's tears ....I wish her luck

[Crimson Dynamo]

Stephanie's dress last night tho

[Marsh.]

This is the same girl who, in her VT, called herself a normal teenager who likes a drink despite being about 23. And the girl who tries to bullsh*t that she quit Hollyoaks despite her own agent confirming she was fired for ignoring warnings about attendance and alcohol consumption.

I don't think self awareness is her forte.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

This is the same girl who, in her VT, called herself a normal teenager who likes a drink despite being about 23. And the girl who tries to bullsh*t that she quit Hollyoaks despite her own agent confirming she was fired for ignoring warnings about attendance and alcohol consumption.

I don't think self awareness is her forte.

23 year old who still sees herself as a child sounds about right for someone who never wants to accept any blame for their own actions and bad behaviour

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

23 year old who still sees herself as a child sounds about right for someone who never wants to accept any blame for their own actions and bad behaviour

I agree....so if she's a twat for thinking she's a teenager at 23 what does that make Gemma who thinks she's a teenager at 34 ?

Sad, Desperate, Deluded ?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I agree....so if she's a twat for thinking she's a teenager at 23 what does that make Gemma who thinks she's a teenager at 34 ?

Sad, Desperate, Deluded ?

hahaha true

[Ammi]

..it did seem to cool slightly after she'd spoken to Megan about Sam/that she loved him, so I wonder why they seem a thing again..?../if they are, I didn't watch all of last nights....the thing is, she felt so judged for it, maybe rightly so but thee irony of what the others did/how they were speaking to her, wouldn't that surely push the relationship closer together, as she looked to Jeremy then for comfort etc...just really badly handled by all...(I don't know anything about her relationship/her boyfriend being abusive..?..)...

[Dollface]

Jeremy isn't in a relationship though, Steph is the one that should have enough respect for her boyfriend to keep a distance from other guys. Imo it's always the fault of the person in the relationship.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dollface

Jeremy isn't in a relationship though, Steph is the one that should have enough respect for her boyfriend to keep a distance from other guys. Imo it's always the fault of the person in the relationship.

I understand that but I think people who have any sort of morals wouldn't get together with someone who they knew had a partner and even worse in this case was actually watching everything play out on TV. Also, even if you think Jeremy is blameless, the thread is mainly about the double standards, if the genders were reversed everyone would be blaming the girl still and calling her a homewrecker

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I understand that but I think people who have any sort of morals wouldn't get together with someone who they knew had a partner and even worse in this case was actually watching everything play out on TV. Also, even if you think Jeremy is blameless, the thread is mainly about the double standards, if the genders were reversed everyone would be blaming the girl still and calling her a homewrecker

True, I could see that happening if the roles were reversed tbh.

[Crimson Dynamo]

[smudgie]

Both come across as sleazy, it's come to something when Scotty takes the moral high ground
Maybe they are both just too immature to realise what a proper relationship is about.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Both come across as sleazy, it's come to something when Scotty takes the moral high ground
Maybe they are both just too immature to realise what a proper relationship is about.

..maybe less moral high ground with Scotty, Smudgie..(and Megan even..)...and more wanting to be the two with the romance and get the media interest.....

[Crimson Dynamo]

please see my thread about Jeremy saying he is in love

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

please see my thread about Jeremy saying he is in love

My thread you mean?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

My thread you mean?

my thread its been hanging for ages




* looks back at forum, sees its moved, looks to see why...


oh

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

my thread its been hanging for ages




* looks back at forum, sees its moved, looks to see why...


oh

Oh indeed

[Braden]

I don't know if it shocks me that barely anyone has criticized Jeremy.

Men get away with a lot more in these types of situations, imo. He's attempting to pursue a romantic relationship with someone who has a boyfriend, and most people (inside and outside the house) seem to think that's okay.

The worst of it is that I don't think Jeremy even likes Stephanie in that way. It's strategy in order to get himself some attention.

[Lostie!]

Completely agree.

This is why I can't warm to Scotty, he's always acting like Stephanie is solely at fault and Jeremy is just some poor guy being manipulated by her.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Completely agree.

This is why I can't warm to Scotty, he's always acting like Stephanie is solely at fault and Jeremy is just some poor guy being manipulated by her.

Tbf we HAVE actually seen her manipulating him It may have happened more than the time we saw...

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Tbf we HAVE actually seen her manipulating him It may have happened more than the time we saw...

Have we?

To be perfectly honest she doesn't strike me as switched-on enough to be this master manipulator / femme fatale that she's being caricatured as.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Have we?

To be perfectly honest she doesn't strike me as switched-on enough to be this master manipulator / femme fatale that she's being caricatured as.

When he tried (feebly...could have stuck to his guns mind) to cool it, and she started blubbing on and that and just blatantly refused to accept it playing poor me poor me...IMO that was manipulation. Its the only time I would say she has mind (that we have seen)

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

When he tried (feebly...could have stuck to his guns mind) to cool it, and she started blubbing on and that and just blatantly refused to accept it playing poor me poor me...IMO that was manipulation. Its the only time I would say she has mind (that we have seen)

Ah yeah, fair enough.

But I still think Scotty's assessment of the situation as a whole is a tad biased in favour of his friend, Jeremy's a grown man with his own mind who earned his fair share of the blame by going there in the first place.