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‘We’d like to thank both Jon Holmes and Mitch Benn for their contributions, but – as we explained almost a week ago when the story first appeared in newspapers – our comedy shows are constantly evolving and it was simply time to create opportunities for new regulars when The Now Show returns this autumn.
‘We will be hiring the new cast for the Now Show based on merit. Jon’s contract was lapsed and wasn’t renewed and this was a creative not a diversity decision, as we have clearly said.’



...I think it's always sad with things like this, when someone loses an income from something they've been doing for many years and something that is faced by many people when contracts are reviewed at periods as in this case/no guarantees as such...but it looks as though his show with him presenting just didn't offer what the BBC were looking for in the direction they plan to go and inevitably it was the right person for the right job...
Its racist and its sexist, period. To justify it is to condone sexist and racism.
Instead of us simply moaning, this middle aged white man should get himself to the law courts asap and sue the hell out of that bloated corrupt sexist misandrist waste of space tv corporation
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..their decision to renew his contract seem to be reasonable and based on 'merit' for the direction they're looking at for the programme slot ..(sad for him and I do have sympathy..)...and yep, he can always take legal action if he feels that's the right course for him...
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..their decision to renew his contract seem to be reasonable and based on 'merit' for the direction they're looking at for the programme slot ..(sad for him and I do have sympathy..)...and yep, he can always take legal action if he feels that's the right course for him...
That's a nice clever way of excusing racism(them not you btw)
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..their decision to renew his contract seem to be reasonable and based on 'merit' for the direction they're looking at for the programme slot ..(sad for him and I do have sympathy..)...and yep, he can always take legal action if he feels that's the right course for him...
Its racism and sexism all rolled into one
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Not sure he could take legal action seeing as he wasn't sacked - his contract just lapsed so they're under no obligation to give him a new one and they have the right to instil a more 'diverse' cast if they wish. All sounds quite feasible to me and it wouldn't be the first time it has happened. Lots of cases of presenters having to make way because they're too old or because they have other ideas about the type of face they want fronting their shows.
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Common sense is putting the right people in the right jobs, desperation is diversity just as a box ticking exercise
Where's the proof that this was done for the sake of diversity? People are just gagging for it to be the case so they think they are justified in complaining.

The man just sounds bitter about his contract not being renewed more than anything else.
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IF this is true then that is appalling. I am not one for 'X only shortlists' or anything, I firmly believe the best person for the job should always get the job, regardless of sex, colour, religion, whatever
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If this was reversed and the one losing their job was in a minority this would have kicked right off. Poor guy.
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Not sure he could take legal action seeing as he wasn't sacked - his contract just lapsed so they're under no obligation to give him a new one and they have the right to instil a more 'diverse' cast if they wish. All sounds quite feasible to me and it wouldn't be the first time it has happened. Lots of cases of presenters having to make way because they're too old or because they have other ideas about the type of face they want fronting their shows.
Bargain Hunt and Tim Wonnacott being a recent example. He was replaced by a whole group of different presenters. It happens all the time.
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IF this is true then that is appalling. I am not one for 'X only shortlists' or anything, I firmly believe the best person for the job should always get the job, regardless of sex, colour, religion, whatever
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Meh it's common. He'll find another job. Maybe he can go work with Tim Burton who says diversity is not needed and diversity is unrealistic in his world of make believe.
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Why not sack a white man? They sack women because they're over 40. Far from being inclusive of other races, it's very devisive because people feel shafted. Much better to ensure that at interview, or at offer of contract, the very best person is chosen, despite their sex, colour or creed. Too much to ask though, right? Got to be PC about it.
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Political correctness is just another word for oppression of white males.
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Oh PLEASE. White males don't know the meaning of oppression. We're literally the most favoured demographic in the world.

Political Correctness isn't oppressive, people that act like they are oppressed by it also happen to have opinions that have fallen out of favour with the times and are mad as hell that their views are no longer as accepted by the general populace.
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https://www.scribd.com/document/3261...g-What-I-Wrote

"I asked for space to write something level headed on the subject, rather than be misquoted all over the place. To be fair, they (SUnday Mail) did print it,"


So he had his say and he did say these things

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Oh PLEASE. White males don't know the meaning of oppression. We're literally the most favoured demographic in the world.

Political Correctness isn't oppressive, people that act like they are oppressed by it also happen to have opinions that have fallen out of favour with the times and are mad as hell that their views are no longer as accepted by the general populace.
It's just another weapon to shut down any differing opinions.Just like shouting racist,bigot and homophobe at everything because some people are **** scared of being called those names.Luckily more and more people are seeing these tactics for what they are.
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Does anyone know what the colour mix is of the cleaning staff at the BBC?

When I worked there is was 99% black from what I could see, I wonder if they have introduced diversity in this field?
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It's just another weapon to shut down any differing opinions.Just like shouting racist,bigot and homophobe at everything because some people are **** scared of being called those names.Luckily more and more people are seeing these tactics for what they are.
Please, it's not about having your opinion shut down, you're entitled to an opinion. People who act like they are oppressed by PC are just mad that it's no longer the opinion of the majority.

Don't talk about opinions and act like you're being oppressed just because you don't get a raptorous round of applause every time you open your mouth. You have a right to an opinion and people have the right to trash or agree with that opinion. It's a two way street.

You aren't being oppressed, it's just that your opinion no longer matches with the majority like it used to.
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Please, it's not about having your opinion shut down, you're entitled to an opinion. People who act like they are oppressed by PC are just mad that it's no longer the opinion of the majority.

Don't talk about opinions and act like you're being oppressed just because you don't get a raptorous round of applause every time you open your mouth. You have a right to an opinion and people have the right to trash or agree with that opinion. It's a two way street.

You aren't being oppressed, it's just that your opinion no longer matches with the majority like it used to.
white men and fathers especially are being oppressed in this country and have infinitely less support if virtually every area of society. You choose to ignore this simply because you dont care. This decision is racist, sexist, probably ageist too and anti meritocratic. Every job should go to the bets person for the job. Sadly corbyn still demands women only short lists, this insane anti democratic policy will ensure he will be humiliated at the general election. Of course dianne abbot calling all brexitors racists will seal the deal.
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white men and fathers especially are being oppressed in this country and have infinitely less support if virtually every area of society. You choose to ignore this simply because you dont care. This decision is racist, sexist, probably ageist too and anti meritocratic. Every job should go to the bets person for the job. Sadly corbyn still demands women only short lists, this insane anti democratic policy will ensure he will be humiliated at the general election. Of course dianne abbot calling all brexitors racists will seal the deal.
This is a comedy radio show though, "the best person for the job" is purely subjective and completely down to what the station are looking for at that particular time. The guys contract had expired and they wanted something different this time round, what on Earth is wrong with that?
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Where's the proof that this was done for the sake of diversity? People are just gagging for it to be the case so they think they are justified in complaining.

The man just sounds bitter about his contract not being renewed more than anything else.
I was talking in general
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tbh they could not replace him with a women as it is an actual comedy show
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This is a comedy radio show though, "the best person for the job" is purely subjective and completely down to what the station are looking for at that particular time. The guys contract had expired and they wanted something different this time round, what on Earth is wrong with that?
Its obvious whats wrong with this, they HAD to replace him with a none white man, thats racist and sexist. Hie long list of awards and good ratings were irrelevant to the bbc who are ensalevd to political correctness and quotas. Abhorrent decision based on immoral guidelines. Lets hope he sues this bloated corrupt male hating outdated monolith
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