[Rufus]

Natalie isn't scum like the other 2. That's the difference.

[Captain.Remy]

If we go by "who is the main topic of conversation in the house" then obviously all of them are on the same level. They clearly dominated the airtime for good or bad reasons.

However though, Marc and Bear were pushovers, they did cause chaos on purpose. While I think Natalie is putting an act and is extra a lot of the time, some of the things she says do make sense and she brings some of her personal issues into it. So it's not as "fake" as Bear or Marc.
I don't see Helen in Natalie too, in a sense that Helen was put on a plateform and loved by a large part of the house that allowed her to go beyond limits a lot of the times (at least she thought the house allowed her to).

That being said, I think all four housemates were somehow misunderstood in their own way, and try to deal with certain situations in a harshly different way than other, more reserved, housemates. A lot can be explained by defense mechanisms. Had they opened up more about themselves, some of the outcomes could have been different.

[Gusto Brunt]

What's the difference between Natalie and Bear/Marc?

A male member I think.

[JerseyWins]

I just don't understand the people that say Bear harassed or bullied others while Natalie hasn't? They've made similar "attacks" on people and they each even come out of their antics with a big obnoxious smile on their face

They're different people though but I think they come from the same "goading" cloth they just go about it in different ways. Natalie is more about having issues with people and challenging/confronting them on everything while Bear is more about being a careless troll with people in his confrontations.

(even if I think they're both kinda tame really and people bring out the bully accusations too easily)

[Alf]

The difference is probably a gut and a chin.

[Matthew.]

Natalie’s just argumentative, Bear threw housemates’ food on the floor and was an actual threat (purposefully spilling oil on the floor, throwing glass bottles)

haven’t seen Marc’s series so i can’t say anything about him

[reece(:]

Bear assaulted Sam Fox!

[Withano]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Bear assaulted Sam Fox!

OUR Sam?

[Withano]

They all serve the same main purpose.

Being ***** for airtime.

Natalie more cruel, Bear more childish, Marc more intrusive, never watched Helen - but they all use the same main tactic yeah. Its boring. Inauthentic, staged, and detracts from any natural social interaction.

[Elliot]

I’d take one-person-steals-the-show-charade over 3 showmances and more gabby any day

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Elliot

I’d take one-person-steals-the-show-charade over 3 showmances and more gabby any day

You're right, she is stealing the show, but she's stealing it from the viewers.

She comes from fake TV (masquerading as reality TV)

[Shaun]

I'm glad you can see into the future

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I'm glad you can see into the future

Thx call me sally

[saiwong]

Natalie is not a smart reality show villain.

She just picks fights with little reason and no substance.

She just starts fights, for the sake of starting a fight

She thus comes off as a FAKE VILLIAN and its all an act, and her actions are just for the tv show

[DouglasS]

Marc and Bear were far better people and housemates.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Were they though

[JoshBB]

Bear, Helen, and Marc are all vile housemates imo. I'm not a Natalie stan but personally I don't think shes anywhere near their level of dislikability.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Intrigued at this point to hear what sets them apart and why Marc/Helen/Bear drained their series of entertainment value and Natalie supposedly isn't?

Of course there have been good series with overbearing personalities being terrible people: Tiffany, Gemma, Kim, Charley, Nikki... the difference is they were at least funny. What stand-out moments does Natalie have? What quotes are there? All I'm hearing is noise and a god complex of "everyone's fake but me". Which is exactly what Bear did

Edit: and before anyone accuses me of coming for Natalie's fans, this question works both ways why are there so many Bear/Helen fans taking issue with her?

GREAT point, Shaun - I could not stand Bear either.