[Headie]

He lowkey is right though, people stopped caring about BB when they turned it into a novelty show full of camp glitter and glam.

Remember the Vegas showgirls

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Hayden

He lowkey is right though, people stopped caring about BB when they turned it into a novelty show full of camp glitter and glam.

Remember the Vegas showgirls

Not sure what Emma and Rylan have to do with this, not least because the Vegas showgirls were only used when Brian hosted the show

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by MB.

Not sure what Emma and Rylan have to do with this, not least because the Vegas showgirls were only used when Brian hosted the show

Weren’t they used in other c5 series too? Also I think the camp glitter and glam is mostly referring to rylan on bots

[pontyboi]

He bangs on about how Rylan And Emma aren't super fans yet Emma has watched every episode for 18 years and Rylan the same.

If he hates the show why did he go back in in 2015? I think he's pressed Rylan auditioned for BB8, was cut last minute but went on to win CBB and have an actual career.

I do agree the after show has become "stupid" but its never really been a serious show and Emma is a great presenter, apart from Davina I cant imagine anyone else doing the show.

[Marsh.]

I love how when this conversation comes up we flit from Davina/Dermot to Emma/Rylan.

Poor George and Brian get forgotten.

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I love how when this conversation comes up we flit from Davina/Dermot to Emma/Rylan.

Poor George and Brian get forgotten.

Zezi and AJ paid dust

[Jordan.]

Yikes is he really trying to pin BB failing all on Emma and Rylan

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Yikes is he really trying to pin BB failing all on Emma and Rylan

I mean rylan did completely ruin bots

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Elliot

I mean rylan did completely ruin bots

It was trash from the very first episode. Rylan didn't help it but still I don't know what that has to do with the main show being bad.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

It was trash from the very first episode. Rylan didn't help it but still I don't know what that has to do with the main show being bad.

I think everything is wrong with the show , the production , channel 5 , bots , presenters .

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Yikes is he really trying to pin BB failing all on Emma and Rylan

That's not what i got from the article i read yesterday it basically sounded like he didn't like BB on channel 5 because it wasn't the same which i agree with.

Rylan is a terrible presenter and bots is tiresome and cringe, i missed alot of episodes because it was unwatchable . The panel usually talk alot of crap , sometimes there's the odd decent debate , but people get interrupted and cut off . And the audience all shout over eachother like a pack of wolves.

Rylan goes off at a tangent and always makes the show about himself , he's extremely self absorbed and theatrical .

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

That's not what i got from the article i read yesterday it basically sounded like he didn't like BB on channel 5 because it wasn't the same which i agree with.

Rylan is a terrible presenter and bots is tiresome and cringe, i missed alot of episodes because it was unwatchable . The panel usually talk alot of crap , sometimes there's the odd decent debate , but people get interrupted and cut off . And the audience all shout over eachother like a pack of wolves.

Rylan goes off at a tangent and always makes the show about himself , he's extremely self absorbed and theatrical .

Agree

[Jase.]

"Everyone’s treating them like they’re Marilyn Monroe and James Dean."

Pretty sure they don't be ok

[joeysteele]

I don't think I've ever agreed with or been interested in anything Belo says.

This article does nothing to change that.

[chuff me dizzy]

Never been a fan of Belo,but agree with what he says about these 2

[bots]

he is right though, they dont help the show

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

he is right though, they dont help the show

Rylan wrecked BBOTS and made it unwatchable ,this has helped Channel 5 decision to drop the entire thing

[Liam-]

Rylan is a terrible presenter and bots has been turned into a joke, but his beef with Emma is unwarranted and disturbing, he needs to back off

[Tregard]

Rylan and Emma clearly care a lot about the show, and they are doing the best they can with the material they're provided.

It's not as if the greatest hosts on the planet could have changed this outcome.

[Morgan.]

The show would've been the same if Davina Presented it. Emma's not production manager, she's host.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

The show would've been the same if Davina Presented it. Emma's not production manager, she's host.

Well... the host DOES also make a difference, to be fair. Say what you will about The X Factor over the years but IMO one thing that is undeniable is that Caroline Flack and Olly Murs were absolutely dire as hosts, and the people behind the show knew it too, hence re-hiring Dermot who love him or loathe him is simply a much more competent host.

[user104658]

Rylan is a better (more insightful, more impartial) interviewer than Emma, and Emma was a better BOTS host than Rylan. They're both terrible in the roles they've had for the last several years.

also;

"Big Brother is the biggest format out of all these shows, it’s not the fact that it’s crap, it’s that you’ve got them running it."

This isn't incorrect but should be directed mainly at the people behind the scenes, not just the ones in front of the camera. Big Brother is one of the original reality formats, and still technically one of the purest and best formats, and could still be great if handled properly. It's been mismanaged into the ground, sadly.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Rylan is a better (more insightful, more impartial) interviewer than Emma, and Emma was a better BOTS host than Rylan. They're both terrible in the roles they've had for the last several years.

also;

"Big Brother is the biggest format out of all these shows, it’s not the fact that it’s crap, it’s that you’ve got them running it."

This isn't incorrect but should be directed mainly at the people behind the scenes, not just the ones in front of the camera. Big Brother is one of the original reality formats, and still technically one of the purest and best formats, and could still be great if handled properly. It's been mismanaged into the ground, sadly.

Neither can hide who they love and hate, this is another reason they are so bad

[user104658]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Neither can hide who they love and hate, this is another reason they are so bad

I agree but Emma is far worse for this than Rylan, her interviews with people she dislikes are awful. And her interviews with people she clearly LIKES are also awful. The only ones that are passable are the ones she doesn't have a strong opinion either way on. Even when Rylan clearly dislikes people, he at least manages to ask some neutral questions and allow them to answer, Emma flat out glares at and talks over people .

That said, I honestly don't particularly rate Davina as an interviewer either, her own opinions clouded the C4 interviews too. She was however a much better host in general than Emma.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I agree but Emma is far worse for this than Rylan, her interviews with people she dislikes are awful. And her interviews with people she clearly LIKES are also awful. The only ones that are passable are the ones she doesn't have a strong opinion either way on. Even when Rylan clearly dislikes people, he at least manages to ask some neutral questions and allow them to answer, Emma flat out glares at and talks over people .

That said, I honestly don't particularly rate Davina as an interviewer either, her own opinions clouded the C4 interviews too. She was however a much better host in general than Emma.

I agree ................. Davina was a lot more professional than Emma