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Old 19-09-2019, 07:22 AM #1
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18 years ago. Come on ffs.

I will freely admit that some of the things I did and said 18 years ago were utterly horrendous. I mean yes, I was only 16 so I do have the "just a kid" excuse but tbqfh I wasn't all that much better in my early 20's.

I honestly believe that (not including actual criminal activity) people should only be judged on the last 5 or so years of their life, UNLESS it is clear that the person hasn't changed. Which is why people would be all over it if it was other prominent figures like Boris or Trump. You can imagine them doing the same thing tomorrow and thinking nothing of it.
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18 years ago. Come on ffs.

I will freely admit that some of the things I did and said 18 years ago were utterly horrendous. I mean yes, I was only 16 so I do have the "just a kid" excuse but tbqfh I wasn't all that much better in my early 20's.

I honestly believe that (not including actual criminal activity) people should only be judged on the last 5 or so years of their life, UNLESS it is clear that the person hasn't changed. Which is why people would be all over it if it was other prominent figures like Boris or Trump. You can imagine them doing the same thing tomorrow and thinking nothing of it.
But 18 years ago, people were saying "you can't do that in this day and age, it's 2001 for God sake"
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But 18 years ago, people were saying "you can't do that in this day and age, it's 2001 for God sake"
Well yes it was around that time that's exactly what they did say and that's why since then it's rarely seen :/
Hence the apology.
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He has apologised, it was apparently at an Arabian nights event..
He went as Aladdin.

Yes, unwise, misguided and not sensitive to the issues then or now.

Odd it's surfaced now, however this is politics now.

I agree with Ammi, he's apologised unreservedly.
He can't do any more than that.

It's now for that Country's voters to decide how big an issue this is for them.
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He has apologised, it was apparently at an Arabian nights event..
He went as Aladdin.

Yes, unwise, misguided and not sensitive to the issues then or now.

Odd it's surfaced now, however this is politics now.

I agree with Ammi, he's apologised unreservedly.
He can't do any more than that.

It's now for that Country's voters to decide how big an issue this is for them.
Says it all really.
It was a themed party, had he been walking down the high street or attending parliament like that then it would warrant the attention and a sacking.
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It wouldn't be such big news if he didn't like to make out he's the most woke politician ever

29 years old, son of a Prime Minister and teacher at leading private school.. not exactly a naive youngster
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It wouldn't be such big news if he didn't like to make out he's the most woke politician ever

29 years old, son of a Prime Minister and teacher at leading private school.. not exactly a naive youngster
Yeah that's true enough
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It wouldn't be such big news if he didn't like to make out he's the most woke politician ever

29 years old, son of a Prime Minister and teacher at leading private school.. not exactly a naive youngster
Of course it would, that's how politics is now old pic.. old tweet.. how you eat a sandwich.
It's how you react that matters, if he'd have said 'meh' it seems that would have been more acceptable than issuing a full and frank apology :/
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What's the law on mud face packs, the ones you see ladies in spa's having, when their faces are made Brown with a slice of cucumber covering each eye, does that break the Brown face law? Are people allowed to take offence to that?
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What's the law on mud face packs, the ones you see ladies in spa's having, when their faces are made Brown with a slice of cucumber covering each eye, does that break the Brown face law? Are people allowed to take offence to that?
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What's the law on mud face packs, the ones you see ladies in spa's having, when their faces are made Brown with a slice of cucumber covering each eye, does that break the Brown face law? Are people allowed to take offence to that?
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Aladdin wasnt even black though was he? He was Arabian
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Who cares? He's cringey af and borderline embarrassing for Canada, but this incident shouldn't affect people's votes, it should come down to policy.

People who think he should resign are basically saying that if someone does one stupid thing, they should never work again. And saying that is pretty stupid.
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What about prince harry and his nazi uniform? How old was he? Is it still held against him?
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What about prince harry and his nazi uniform? How old was he? Is it still held against him?
To be honest, I don't think there's many holding what Trudeau did against him. It's just more about his hypocrisy.

In a sane World, we know that all he did was attend a fancy dress party, in a sane World people don't apologise for doing that. But he did apologise, which tells us we're not living in a sane World.
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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is facing a third allegation of wearing racist attire when he was younger.

A video has emerged which shows him with "blackface" - only a day after he apologised for two similar episodes.

His Liberal Party has confirmed that the latest video is genuine and dates from the early 1990s.

The revelations come in the middle of campaigning for the 21 October election when Mr Trudeau hopes to win a second term.

What is in the latest video to emerge?
The footage, first obtained by Global News, shows Mr Trudeau in a white t-shirt and torn jeans.

His face and limbs appear to be covered in black make-up. He is seen laughing, throwing his hands in the air, sticking his tongue out and pulling faces.

Mr Trudeau would have been in his late teens or early 20s.

What about the other episodes?
On Wednesday, the embattled PM apologised for wearing "brownface" make-up at a gala at a private Vancouver school where he taught nearly two decades ago.

The 2001 yearbook picture obtained by Time Magazine shows Mr Trudeau, then aged 29, with skin-darkening make-up on his face and hands at the West Point Grey Academy.

Addressing the image, Mr Trudeau said he "deeply regretted" his actions and "should have known better".


The second image to emerge on Wednesday shows Mr Trudeau performing in a talent show as a student at high school.

He wore "blackface" and sang Day-O, a Jamaican folk song popularised by American civil rights activist Harry Belafonte.

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To be honest, I don't think there's many holding what Trudeau did against him. It's just more about his hypocrisy.

In a sane World, we know that all he did was attend a fancy dress party, in a sane World people don't apologise for doing that. But he did apologise, which tells us we're not living in a sane World.
Rules are being rewritten these days. People are far more sensitive about their heritage.
I dont think this is a bad or good thing, it just is.
Look at actors, there was a scandal when non Asian actors played Asian roles and recently in london where there was no Jewish person playing in a Jewish musical.
We will need to accept the new rules. I have no problem with it tbh.
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Jesus! What next, a video of him singing Day-O?
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It is starting to look like a bit of a fetish for him now. Who knows? Maybe he is a massive racist behind closed doors, it wouldn't surprise me if he is.
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Hmm, I think the important part of this is that he apologised and he's pretty much shown through his policies and his term that he's very much an ally of diversity. If these photos still reflected who he is today then he should be hung out and left to dry for it but I don't think it does.

I don't see the point of dragging someone over the coals for something they did 20+ years ago IF they've shown they've changed and grown. Hopefully he can make amends for the past and what is an obviously well timed attack from the right and their constant faux outrage will fall flat. If he was still that same person then drag away but I don't think that's the case.
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Hmm, I think the important part of this is that he apologised and he's pretty much shown through his policies and his term that he's very much an ally of diversity. If these photos still reflected who he is today then he should be hung out and left to dry for it but I don't think it does.

I don't see the point of dragging someone over the coals for something they did 20+ years ago IF they've shown they've changed and grown. Hopefully he can make amends for the past and what is an obviously well timed attack from the right and their constant faux outrage will fall flat. If he was still that same person then drag away but I don't think that's the case.

But in his case he is so against Racism, now
and its a Mega Topic in the Election Battle
on right now in Canada.

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