[bots]

the problem is that people have no fear of the police in the UK, which is a good thing in 99.999% of circumstances, but not really at the present time. Anyone that has dealt with the police in China or Russia as examples knows the difference, you are crapping yourself. In Moscow now they are using cams with facial recognition. You get a visit and if you didn't have a valid reason for being out, you are locked up for 7 years. That focuses the mind

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the problem is that people have no fear of the police in the UK, which is a good thing in 99.999% of circumstances, but not really at the present time. Anyone that has dealt with the police in China or Russia as examples knows the difference, you are crapping yourself. In Moscow now they are using cams with facial recognition. You get a visit and if you didn't have a valid reason for being out, you are locked up for 7 years. That focuses the mind

I'd rather die of Covid and have my kids grow up without a dad than have them live in that world. And that's not even an exaggeration.

[Kizzy]

Hmm I read an article that said situations like this can see the public more open to the idea of a police state....

https://www.thearticle.com/lord-sump...te-is-he-right

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hmm I read an article that said situations like this can see the public more open to the idea of a police state....

yes, we are very vulnerable to it, and the police want more power at the moment ... i'm not comfortable with that.

We are in an authoritarian police state now, it happened over night and it could be a long time before things return to normal. I think it's Hungary, although i could be wrong, where parliament voted to give the PM unlimited power, with no time limit .... that isn't democracy

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hmm I read an article that said situations like this can see the public more open to the idea of a police state....

https://www.thearticle.com/lord-sump...te-is-he-right

There's not enough Police.

We out number them,

[Beso]

Truncheons would be better.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Truncheons would be better.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

If we sanction the authorities to start using violence as a means of control, they will never stop, and after Covid we'll all wake up to a world that none of us wants to live in.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Truncheons would be better.

They are on Antiques Road show these days

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Truncheons would be better.

Bit Rough for the Middle Class

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Given the news about all the parties that have had to be broken up by Police in the past 4 days alone, it's time for fines



Listened to guy who rang in from Germany yesterday (Irish we get everywhere ) they hand out on the spot fines if you are breaking the guidance, if you can't pay there and then it will come out of your salary/benefit, or if under 18 parents will have to pay



Once again the UK is far too soft, this weekend is going to be carnage, with hot weather predicted until Sunday

He also said that the German culture was for people to be more respectful and law abiding that the British ... fair point

Agreed . I’d let the cops use tasers as often as they want for these selfish bar stewards


We live in a lovely quiet cul de sac and every family is abiding by the rules completely APART from the three oldest guys in their late 70’s to mid 80’s . They have carried on with their normal lives .. each one makes at least 3 trips out each day in their cars ..


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[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Zizu

He also said that the German culture was for people to be more respectful and law abiding that the British ... fair point

Agreed . I’d let the cops use tasers as often as they want for these selfish bar stewards


We live in a lovely quiet cul de sac and every family is abiding by the rules completely APART from the three oldest guys in their late 70’s to mid 80’s . They have carried on with their normal lives .. each one makes at least 3 trips out each day in their cars ..


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Report them or do the tyres !

[arista]

PM is now back in a Normal Ward

[Amy Jade]

I agree heavy fines too. Sick of seeing morons out and about because they think they can do as they please

[Cherie]

500 fines given by Scottish police not TS unwittingly living in the only police state in the UK

https://www.scotsman.com/health/coro...-fines-2535869

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

500 fines given by Scottish police not TS unwittingly living in the only police state in the UK

Yes to many Up There
are Pissed

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

500 fines given by Scottish police not TS unwittingly living in the only police state in the UK



https://www.scotsman.com/health/coro...-fines-2535869

I didn't say anything about fines being a police state I said fines wouldn't deter anyone.

I called your idea that we should allow Jackbooted armoured police to threaten, intimidate and beat people into submission a police state. When you were saying that the police should take notes from the Guardia. Rememberrrr?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

How can you possibly know that lockdown working better across Europe is down to the introduction of fines?

Originally Posted by Cherie

Because I have friends who live in Spain, trust me no one messes with the Guardia Civil

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I didn't say anything about fines being a police state I said fines wouldn't deter anyone.

I called your idea that we should allow Jackbooted armoured police to threaten, intimidate and beat people into submission a police state. When you were saying that the police should take notes from the Guardia. Rememberrrr?

No that is how you interpreted my post, thats not my issue, the Guardia Civil carry guns thats deterrent enough for most

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No that is how you interpreted my post, thats not my issue, the Guardia Civil carry guns thats deterrent enough for most

As I have extended family from Catalonia, I'm well aware of how the Spanish police operate thanks. I'll not be advocating copy and pasting their tactics to the UK

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No that is how you interpreted my post, thats not my issue, the Guardia Civil carry guns thats deterrent enough for most

Yes Pistol Whip them

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I didn't say anything about fines being a police state I said fines wouldn't deter anyone.

I called your idea that we should allow Jackbooted armoured police to threaten, intimidate and beat people into submission a police state. When you were saying that the police should take notes from the Guardia. Rememberrrr?

What a reactionary, hysterical interpretation..

[arista]

Woman Cop
Bitten on her arm
in Manchester.

LBC news Headline

That should Give her Covid.

[Cherie]

17 fixed penalty notices have been handed out in the Midlands they have kept all this very quiet

[Beso]

Originally Posted by arista

Woman Cop
Bitten on her arm
in Manchester.

LBC news Headline

That should Give her Covid.

Are the Scots coming down in thier droves????

[michael21]

Originally Posted by arista

Woman Cop
Bitten on her arm
in Manchester.

LBC news Headline

That should Give her Covid.

Not fact

[Zizu]

So all these idiots flaunting the rules - the media are taking photos and videos and zooming in so why not start showing their faces on the evening news programs..

Shame them into behaving or let their neighbours ‘influence’ them


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