[user104658]

He should have been cast into the abyss in 2015 so yes. Get rid by any means necessary. I couldn't give a **** about his Covid jollies but hey if it works as a hammer to knock that barnacle off of British politics, why not manipulate it to that end? Cummings can't really complain, nefarious political manipulation has been his entire career. Live by the sword, and all that.

[MTVN]

He should have been at the start but the damage has been done now so I'm not sure there's much point. In the end this will pass and Cummings will have the chance to prove whether his importance to government over the next four years outweighs the anger he has caused with his actions. I was pretty disappointed with the PMs response but I've found the hounding of Cummings by some of the press and by activists to be pretty unedifying as well

[Liam-]

Boris has really backed himself into a corner, he’s stood by someone who should have been fired and if anything new comes out that proves he’s been lying, it’ll prove that Boris has lied himself to defend someone he shouldn’t have, all of this could have been dealt with if they had taken swift action, whatever happens now they’ve lost the trust of a lot of people

[Zizu]

Just heard Beth Hillier ( Labour obviously) putting questions to Boris .. her tone was simply disgraceful and I would have insisted that she lost that attitude or cut her off .

There was another female mp earlier on who was also unnecessarily aggressive towards the Prime Minister.. she just barked complaints at him despite repeatedly being told by the chairman to ASK a question ... she continued to ignore him as well ..

And we wonder why our youngsters have zero respect for authority ..


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[Marsh.]

Oh no, we can't be having politicians with bad attitudes.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Oh no, we can't be having politicians with bad attitudes.

Surely they have to remain respectful towards others .. both women immediately went on the offensive ‘telling’ Boris why he’d made this decision or that decision... just ridiculous


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[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Surely they have to remain respectful towards others .. both women immediately went on the offensive ‘telling’ Boris why he’d made this decision or that decision... just ridiculous


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Oh I completely agree. I just find it odd to be up in arms about a tone of voice but their completely disrespectful and diabolical actions are seen as making mountains out of molehills. You're quick to call out her "disgraceful" tone of voice but not Dominic Cumming's lies.

We've already had both Dominic and Boris tell bare faced lies in regards to the situation, it's no wonder people are at the end of their tether.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Oh I completely agree. I just find it odd to be up in arms about a tone of voice but their completely disrespectful and diabolical actions are seen as making mountains out of molehills. You're quick to call out her "disgraceful" tone of voice but not Dominic Cumming's lies.

We've already had both Dominic and Boris tell bare faced lies in regards to the situation, it's no wonder people are at the end of their tether.

To be fair it’s easy to spot the disrespectful behaviour those two demonstrated today but virtually impossible to see if someone is lying ..

Cummings made some poor decisions but we can’t know for sure if he’s lied about anything in that statement .. just because you and yours detest him or wouldn’t have made the same choices it doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s lied about anything ..


Oddly enough someone last night said that his account of things sounded so bad that it had to be true as if someone was making up a story they wouldn’t have come up with the one he told .


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[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

To be fair it’s easy to spot the disrespectful behaviour those two demonstrated today but virtually impossible to see if someone is lying ..

Cummings made some poor decisions but we can’t know for sure if he’s lied about anything in that statement .. just because you and yours detest him or wouldn’t have made the same choices it doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s lied about anything ..


Oddly enough someone last night said that his account of things sounded so bad that it had to be true as if someone was making up a story they wouldn’t have come up with the one he told .


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Detest him? Not at all. Find his behaviour abhorrent? Yes. Impossible to see if someone's lying? Ok. His constantly changing story is a big indicator.

Whether you believe his tale to be true or lies is not the point. EITHER WAY he's taken the piss out of the public and continues to do so.

You would see that if you weren't playing your tired Labour v Conservative game. "You and yours" I take to mean as Labour supporters. I'll give you a hint: I didn't vote Labour. As such, your words are empty.

[Zizu]

Classic

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[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Classic

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Love it Zizu and hes right and wasnt the lockdown introduced to help the NHS cope ? it wasnt to stop the virus because nothing can, the DC scandal imo is very much a political game.

[Marsh.]

Nobody said lockdown was to stop the virus.

You're blindly ignoring the reasons people have taken issue and invented new ones. The lengths people will go to to convince themselves that what he did was fine. So fine, he saw fit to tell innumerable lies after the fact.

You'll support him and he's literally laughing at you.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nobody said lockdown was to stop the virus.

You're blindly ignoring the reasons people have taken issue and invented new ones. The lengths people will go to to convince themselves that what he did was fine. So fine, he saw fit to tell innumerable lies after the fact.

You'll support him and he's literally laughing at you.

I've never said I supported him, I do however think the hysteria over this now is laughable ,the media are being absolutely manic.No one said what he did was fine

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I've never said I supported him, I do however think the hysteria over this now is laughable ,the media are being absolutely manic.No one said what he did was fine

Many are.
And diverting attention to the behaviour of the media doesn't change anything.

[AnnieK]

Maybe if he relaxed the lockdown, stayed close to home and taken his shirt off whilst adhering to his advised measures LT may have agreed he was in the wrong?? The guy has single handedly broken the GBPs trust in the Gov and anyone sayong otherwise needs to take a look at the numerous polls and then argue their point in the.mirror

[Zizu]

Police statement in full.

"On March 27 2020, Dominic Cummings drove to Durham to self-isolate in a property owned by his father.

Durham Constabulary does not consider that by locating himself at his father’s premises, Mr Cummings committed an offence contrary to regulation six of the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020. (We are concerned here with breaches of the regulations, not the general Government guidance to “stay at home”.)

On April 12 2020, Mr Cummings drove approximately 26 miles from his father’s property to Barnard Castle with his wife and son. He stated on May 25 2020 that the purpose of this drive was to test his resilience to drive to London the following day, including whether his eyesight was sufficiently recovered, his period of self-isolation having ended.

Durham Constabulary have examined the circumstances surrounding the journey to Barnard Castle (including ANPR, witness evidence and a review of Mr Cummings’ press conference on May 25 2020) and have concluded that there might have been a minor breach of the regulations that would have warranted police intervention. Durham Constabulary view this as minor because there was no apparent breach of social distancing.

Had a Durham Constabulary police officer stopped Mr Cummings driving to or from Barnard Castle, the officer would have spoken to him, and, having established the facts, likely advised Mr Cummings to return to the address in Durham, providing advice on the dangers of travelling during the pandemic crisis.

Had this advice been accepted by Mr Cummings, no enforcement action would have been taken.

In line with Durham Constabulary’s general approach throughout the pandemic, there is no intention to take retrospective action in respect of the Barnard Castle incident since this would amount to treating Mr Cummings differently from other members of the public. Durham Constabulary has not taken retrospective action against any other person.

By way of further context, Durham Constabulary has followed Government guidance on management of alleged breaches of the regulations with the emphasis on the NPCC and College of Policing 4Es: Engage, Explain and Encourage before Enforcement.

Finally, commentary in the media has suggested that Mr Cummings was in Durham on April 19 2020. Mr Cummings denies this and Durham Constabulary have seen insufficient evidence to support this allegation.

Therefore Durham Constabulary will take no further action in this matter and has informed Mr Cummings of this decision." https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...d-and-scotland


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[Kizzy]

Hmm reading this it seems a bit of a cop out (lol) there is no mention of the police visit to his father's property. Why did the investigation not include the journey to Durham when he was symptomatic? There is no clarification that he did or didn't stop en route, if he had that would be a clear breach of regulation six of the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020 wouldn't it?

Basically its suggesting he broke advice not laws, which seeing as he drove to Durham and exposed a member of his household to another family member not in his household, personally..imo...he hid.

[user104658]

I have no idea where the idea came from that it's only a problem / sacking offense if he broke the letter of the law. He should sacked for going against the guidelines that he was instrumental in creating. The legality of it doesn't matter. IMO the focus on whether or not it's illegal is and always was a red herring.

[arista]

[Dogeatdog]

Originally Posted by arista

He looks a lot like Moby on the Daily Mirror front page

[joeysteele]

I wasn't back on here to vote on this.
I'd have voted a solid yes he should.

Even moreso after his ridiculous account of his reasoning for both the trip to his Family's home, then the, I( mean really), the sight testing trip.

He should have been, still should be sacked.
He'd have a good new career set up writing fiction novels for sure.

He must have something incredible as a political hold possibly on this PM that could damage him.
For this arrogant Cummings to know he needed never to resign or even apologise.
Also to, to be sure this pathetic PM wouldn't ask him to apologise nor dare to sack him either.

I was actually stunned the police accepted the ridiculous story of testing his eyes, yet driving a car with his wife and young child in said car.
It does need looking at again definitely in my view, particularly if there is even the slightest possibility of a second trip being made too.