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View Poll Results: Should Dominic Cummings be sacked? | ||||||
Yes | 23 | 82.14% | ||||
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No | 5 | 17.86% | ||||
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26-05-2020, 10:30 PM | #1 | |||
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Poll incoming x
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26-05-2020, 10:32 PM | #2 | |||
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No he shouldn't be fired....the selfish twat shpuld have resigned
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26-05-2020, 10:33 PM | #3 | |||
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In my opinion he’s only still there as he knows where the bodies are buried, he is the Sinitta of the Tory party.
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26-05-2020, 10:33 PM | #4 | |||
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Oh he completely should’ve resigned.
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26-05-2020, 11:11 PM | #5 | |||
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I don’t think he should be fired or forced out for this matter ..
If he’s such a bad man get him on something else .. maybe another misdemeanour further down the line . He’s being incorrectly crucified for taking a 30 minutes drive to test his eyesight yet he never said that he took the test drive for that reason .. Check out this excerpt :: She didn't want to risk a nearly 300-mile drive with our child, given how ill I had been. We agreed that we should go for a short drive to see if I could drive safely. We drove for roughly half an hour and ended up on the outskirts of Barnard Castle town. We did not visit the castle. We did not walk around the town. We parked by a river. My wife and I discussed the situation. We agreed that I could drive safely, we should turn around, go home. “ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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26-05-2020, 11:12 PM | #6 | ||
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26-05-2020, 11:27 PM | #7 | |||
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another vice
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26-05-2020, 11:29 PM | #8 | |||
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Oh yes he is ... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Last edited by Zizu; 26-05-2020 at 11:29 PM. |
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26-05-2020, 11:34 PM | #9 | |||
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100 percent not.
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26-05-2020, 11:40 PM | #10 | |||
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Now this morning Starmer was calling for Cummings’s head ..
Now apparently there was a political commentator on today’s Good morning Britain say that 4 labour MPs had broken the lock down and none had been punished by him. Is this the case? Does anyone know ?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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26-05-2020, 11:42 PM | #11 | |||
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Wish I owned all memes for next week.
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26-05-2020, 11:59 PM | #12 | |||
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Interesting...
Please excuse the cut and paste job Last Labour took on a new line and a new, harsher, tone. Instead of asking questions, the leader of the opposition pivoted to demanding the scalp of Dominic Cummings. Pitch forks were sharpened. Attack videos were made. The witch hunt campaign began in earnest. Whilst this more aggressive strategy, as Corbyn’s used to, collects likes and retweets in droves online, Starmer has now opened up a can of hypocrisy worms that he will not be able to put back with any ease. It isn’t that long ago that Labour’s Stephen Kinnock drove hundreds of miles to see his elderly parents during lockdown or that one of Labour’s few remaining MPs in County Durham, Kevan Jones, attended a constituents’ birthday party. On both occasions, Keir Starmer of course did nothing. This new approach smacks bad faith hyper partisanship – exactly the approach the new Labour Leader told the nation he would avoid. Truly gone is the brief window of constructive opposition. Starmer’s statement yesterday highlighted the tragic cases of people across this country not able to be with their loved ones in their final moments, and of mourners unable to find the closure and shared consolation of funerals. Yet this was the same Keir Starmer who did nothing to reprimand Labour MP Tahir Ali who attended a funeral in his constituency as one of 100 mourners at the start of April. The point scoring partisan double standards over such sensitive matters leaves a truly bitter taste in the mouth. The statement is even more brazen when you take into account that Dominic Cummings himself was among the many millions of people robbed of being with their loved ones in their final moments. Due to the lockdown Cummings was unable to visit his uncle, whom he was exceptionally close to, through his final days in hospital in London. At the time, Cummings was isolating in Durham. What a contrast to those Labour MPs who darted about the country for reasons other than safeguarding children with particular needs. Even viewed under the harshest lens, the case of Dominic Cummings is less than clear cut. MPs like Steve Baker who have called for Cummings to go have spoken about the “spirit” rather than the letter of the rules being broken. This far from the same category of those Labour MPs who actually broke lockdown. Labour’s Health Secretary in Wales, Vaughn Gething, had a picnic with his family in a park at a time when the Welsh Government he sits in explicitly said “No picnics in the park.” There is no wriggle room there. Keir Starmer of course stayed silent. Once the guillotine has been dragged out for one person, it rarely works out well for the initial operators. Labour needs to recognise they can’t cheer on the cancel culture revolution for their political opponents, while ignoring the graver misdeeds of their own. Keir Starmer is opening a pandora’s box of persecution, and it will not discriminate by party. This can’t be one rule for Labour politicians, and another rule for everyone else. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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27-05-2020, 05:14 AM | #13 | |||
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Why is everyone dismissing the fact that this apparently unforgivable ‘crime’ comes down to an obviously concerned couple simply doing their level best to protect their 4 yrs old child , whilst actually causing no harm to anyone !
Blimey I’d give them the benefit of the doubt if their explanation was based around them simply being worried that they MAY both get poorly but given we KNOW that that the mother was poorly at the start and the father actually got very , very poorly the whole witch-hunt seems grossly unfair . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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27-05-2020, 05:34 AM | #14 | |||
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like the boys
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Good morning and welcome to my TED Talk on how contagious diseases work
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27-05-2020, 05:47 AM | #15 | |||
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27-05-2020, 05:54 AM | #16 | |||
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If on the test drive to test his eyesight, it had proved to not be up to driving and he caused an accident....was that not putting people at risk? The terms of your driving licence state that you must feel well enough to drive before getting behind the wheel of said car.
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27-05-2020, 06:21 AM | #17 | |||
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The thing is he’d HAD trouble with his eyesight.. at no time before / during / after making his statement has he said his eyesight was impaired when he took off on the test drive ... the drive was simply to assure both his his wife and himself that he’d recovered sufficiently from his illness to make the long drive home .. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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27-05-2020, 07:50 AM | #18 | |||
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POW! BLAM!
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I don't think so - by keeping him, the Tories are hoisting themselves on their own petard* and I look forward to Boris blundering along as he tries to maintain credibility.
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27-05-2020, 09:12 AM | #19 | |||
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self-oscillating
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As 70% of the British public believe he should be sacked it would seem to be political suicide to continue making excuses for him to keep him in position. At the end of the day, that's usually all that matters and Boris would be stupid to ignore it, but then he isn't normal
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27-05-2020, 09:21 AM | #20 | |||
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You know my methods
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No of course not
It's just hysteria that is class and politically motivated. Plus many twitter, tick tockites are bored and don't have much to do and need to vent their frustration |
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27-05-2020, 09:28 AM | #21 | ||
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He should have been cast into the abyss in 2015 so yes. Get rid by any means necessary. I couldn't give a **** about his Covid jollies but hey if it works as a hammer to knock that barnacle off of British politics, why not manipulate it to that end? Cummings can't really complain, nefarious political manipulation has been his entire career. Live by the sword, and all that.
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27-05-2020, 05:19 PM | #22 | |||
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All hail the Moyesiah
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He should have been at the start but the damage has been done now so I'm not sure there's much point. In the end this will pass and Cummings will have the chance to prove whether his importance to government over the next four years outweighs the anger he has caused with his actions. I was pretty disappointed with the PMs response but I've found the hounding of Cummings by some of the press and by activists to be pretty unedifying as well
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27-05-2020, 05:22 PM | #23 | |||
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Boris has really backed himself into a corner, he’s stood by someone who should have been fired and if anything new comes out that proves he’s been lying, it’ll prove that Boris has lied himself to defend someone he shouldn’t have, all of this could have been dealt with if they had taken swift action, whatever happens now they’ve lost the trust of a lot of people
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27-05-2020, 05:40 PM | #24 | |||
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Just heard Beth Hillier ( Labour obviously) putting questions to Boris .. her tone was simply disgraceful and I would have insisted that she lost that attitude or cut her off .
There was another female mp earlier on who was also unnecessarily aggressive towards the Prime Minister.. she just barked complaints at him despite repeatedly being told by the chairman to ASK a question ... she continued to ignore him as well .. And we wonder why our youngsters have zero respect for authority .. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Last edited by Zizu; 27-05-2020 at 05:44 PM. |
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27-05-2020, 05:44 PM | #25 | ||
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Oh no, we can't be having politicians with bad attitudes.
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