[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...there was something when I was at school as well, the student became pregnant at 16yrs old ...it’s quite horrifying and scary how so many of us have a personal story of ‘a case we know’, you know...leaving the feeling that such breaches of trust are not so rare...

A friend of mine knew the girl from the "infamous" Aberdeen story (a girl ran off to France I think it was, with her teacher who was about 50) from about 20 years ago... She told me a couple of years back that they're apparently still together and have kids . I remember it seeming like such an unusual story at the time but then you go to Uni and EVERYONE has a story from their own school.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...it’s really odd and quite awful that it is being headlines as ‘having sex’ in all of the media that I can see, when in the eyes of the law, consensual sex could never have taken place...it really is making lighter of one of the most severe abuse of trusts there can be...a teacher and pupil...(..thank you for amending it, Arista...I can see that you copied the media titles, but they’re not showing accuracy or severity ...)....

...the teacher had apparently told the child that she was pregnant as well and then that she miscarried...it also says that she was being tried for a second time after a first trial was unable to reach verdicts on those charges, surely there should have never been any doubt with the verdict...

...that her actions are horrendous is without doubt but that she didn’t plead guilty and prevent the child and his family from having to go through the court ordeal is also unforgivable...awful, awful woman...

Even if he was over the age of consent, the fact that he was a pupil in her care it should be treated the same imo, such an abuse of trust and power. As a parent you're sending your children in to school trusting that they're safe, I'd be out for her blood if he was my son

[AnnieK]

She's been remanded in custody today until sentencing on 15th Feb

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

She's been remanded in custody today until sentencing on 15th Feb

Hopefully they put her in gen-pop and make it well known what she's in there for. Save the costs of a trial and all that .

[Ammi]

...she should have a maximum sentence and the full weight of justice, surely that’s what the child’s parents would want also...her ‘being beaten up’ or whatever is suggested, serves no purpose at all...nothing is ‘served’ by that...

[arista]

[Married teacher, 35, who had outdoor sex
with her 15-year-old pupil after sending
him flirty Snapchat messages
is jailed for over six years
as victim says ordeal ruined his GCSE results]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...six-years.html

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

[Married teacher, 35, who had outdoor sex
with her 15-year-old pupil after sending
him flirty Snapchat messages
is jailed for over six years
as victim says ordeal ruined his GCSE results]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...six-years.html

Good

[arista]

Get in Jail.

[UserSince2005]

Dirty slag.

[arista]

[The teacher at at Princes Risborough School
had bombarded him with messages
including one where she
asked him 'Do you like boobs or bum?',
and sent him a photo of herself
on a bed surrounded by sex toys.

But Barber - who was sentenced
at Aylesbury Crown Court- was found
out after a topless pictures she
had sent her victim was circulated
around so much it ended up being
passed to the head teacher of their school.

Today the pupil - who cannot be named - said the
ordeal had impacted his GCSE results.]

[Livia]

The word "rape" appears in the title of this thread and is scattered throughout. For the sake of accuracy I have to say she was found guilty of "one count of causing or inciting a child under 16 to engage in sexual activity" and would never have been charged with rape.

I read the article... what a piece of scum she is.

[Marsh.]

Statutory rape is statutory rape.

[Livia]

Rape = penetration. Look it up.

[Marsh.]

Ah the most important detail people wanted clarifying, who penetrated who. Statutory rape is sex with a minor.

Tibb is not a court document.

[Ammi]

...6 years, serving around 2 or 3 years...?...I know that a maximum sentence has restrictions but that to me isn’t justice and where the justice system fails ...a sentence as low as that for her crime is a failure to protect a child/children IMO....what she did was horrendous, to groom a child ....

[Alf]

After she takes a few beatings from the women inmates, she will then be passed around as the womens pleasure toy.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...6 years, serving around 2 or 3 years...?...I know that a maximum sentence has restrictions but that to me isn’t justice and where the justice system fails ...a sentence as low as that for her crime is a failure to protect a child/children IMO....what she did was horrendous, to groom a child ....

Completely agree.

[Livia]

She still didn't rape him.

I hope her sentence is appealed and increased.

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Alf

After she takes a few beatings from the women inmates, she will then be passed around as the womens pleasure toy.

im afraid kinky ones like this will enjoy every minute. Disgusted

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

She still didn't rape him.

I hope her sentence is appealed and increased.

In what world does the definition of a word within a specific country's legal system = the objective semantic meaning of the word? They're not the same thing, surely you know that.

You can say "she was not charged with rape under English legal definitions" - but whether or not the act of a woman having underage sex with a male can be in one's opinion be considered a form of rape has nothing to do with the legal technicalities... Just as with murder. People can (validly) say "That's clearly murder" about things that the legal system defines as manslaughter, etc.

Hell there isn't even consensus in Western legal systems from what I'm reading - e.g. Some legal systems define rape as forceful penetration with anything including inanimate objects, others it had to be a body part, others it specifically has to be penis.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

In what world does the definition of a word within a specific country's legal system = the objective semantic meaning of the word? They're not the same thing, surely you know that.

You can say "she was not charged with rape under English legal definitions" - but whether or not the act of a woman having underage sex with a male can be in one's opinion be considered a form of rape has nothing to do with the legal technicalities... Just as with murder. People can (validly) say "That's clearly murder" about things that the legal system defines as manslaughter, etc.

Hell there isn't even consensus in Western legal systems from what I'm reading - e.g. Some legal systems define rape as forceful penetration with anything including inanimate objects, others it had to be a body part, others it specifically has to be penis.

[GoldHeart]

The disturbing part is she's a mother aswell, how would she feel if this happened to her own kids ! .

[user104658]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

The disturbing part is she's a mother aswell, how would she feel if this happened to her own kids ! .

A friend of mine, at 17, had a fling with a 48 year old woman who had a 16 year old son. Whilst obviously it's not technically illegal, to this day I often wonder how the **** she could have sex with a kid basically her own son's age.

My friend wasn't even big built/mature looking at that age or anything - he very much looked like a skinny teenage boy. Just gross .

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Livia

Rape = penetration. Look it up.

Then it's outdated and needs updating

Children can't consent to sex, it's as simple as that. Do you think a senile old woman can consent to borrowing money with a ridiculously high interest rate?

Or more comparably, would you think it was theft if someone tricked an old person into giving them vast amounts of money by taking advantage of their mental state?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

A friend of mine, at 17, had a fling with a 48 year old woman who had a 16 year old son. Whilst obviously it's not technically illegal, to this day I often wonder how the **** she could have sex with a kid basically her own son's age.

My friend wasn't even big built/mature looking at that age or anything - he very much looked like a skinny teenage boy. Just gross .

I'll never know what goes through people's heads who do that .

How did your friend respond ,did he enjoy being with an older woman or feel weird afterwards ? . It makes it worse that her son was his peer

Even when both parties are adults, I still find it uncomfortable when the person dates someone younger than their OWN CHILDREN ! .