[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Camilla IS Queen, she was crowned in the ceremony fgs.

And who are you referring to as peculiar and dumb? I never said I was annoyed Kate will be Queen. I like her. I just disagree in general, I think the wives or husbands of the Monarchs should just be Consorts. Full stop.

That's what I think as well.
I don't like these outdated laws.

[Vanessa]

I'm not Camilla biggest fan to be honest.
But she's there to support the king. That's about it.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'm not Camilla biggest fan to be honest.
But she's there to SUPPORT the king. That's about it.

Well she has been UNDER him since the 70’s ... allegedly




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[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well she has been UNDER him since the 70’s ... allegedly




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[MTVN]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

how would chess work if the king and queen were equal

It would stop the king being so useless

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Kate!

She is really lovely. Has the same appeal as Di did. Camilla is a sour faced madam. Her face was tripping her at that concert, she looked bored sh1tless.

What rubbish Kate, she did not look bored at all, she and Charlotte had watches that light up to the music. I think they all enjoyed.

[UserSince2005]

Queen of the *****s, yes

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

how would chess work if the king and queen were equal

Good point !!

I wonder why the creators gave all the power to the Queen ??

Very modern idea !!


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[user104658]

The concept of royalty and inheritance of titles by birthright (and by extension marriage) is inherently immoral so it's not "morally right" for any of them to be known as any of these titles.

However, taking as given that these titles are going to continue to exist, it's a bit of a fudging of the question as I understand it? The two categories are "Queen Consort" and "Queen Regnant", both of which are types of "Queen". So Elizabeth was Queen Regnant, Camilla is Queen Consort, but both can be referred to in the shorthand as "The Queen".

[bots]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The concept of royalty and inheritance of titles by birthright (and by extension marriage) is inherently immoral so it's not "morally right" for any of them to be known as any of these titles.

However, taking as given that these titles are going to continue to exist, it's a bit of a fudging of the question as I understand it? The two categories are "Queen Consort" and "Queen Regnant", both of which are types of "Queen". So Elizabeth was Queen Regnant, Camilla is Queen Consort, but both can be referred to in the shorthand as "The Queen".

and for Alf, they can both be shortened to 'Q''

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The concept of royalty and inheritance of titles by birthright (and by extension marriage) is inherently immoral so it's not "morally right" for any of them to be known as any of these titles.

However, taking as given that these titles are going to continue to exist, it's a bit of a fudging of the question as I understand it? The two categories are "Queen Consort" and "Queen Regnant", both of which are types of "Queen". So Elizabeth was Queen Regnant, Camilla is Queen Consort, but both can be referred to in the shorthand as "The Queen".

Well I’ve learnt something then !!

I’ve never heard of Queen Regnant only Queen Regent !!

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A queen regnant possesses and exercises sovereign powers, whereas a queen consort or queen regent shares her spouse's and/or child's rank and titles but does not share the sovereignty of her spouse or child.


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[Crimson Dynamo]

She isnt the queen

she is the queen consort

not to happy with the DT callin' her the queen

that aint right

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Good point !!

I wonder why the creators gave all the power to the Queen ??

Very modern idea !!


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?

Do you play chess?

The Queen is the strongest and most useful piece on the board but the game is about killing the King ... the King is still the rimary piece on the board. A skilled enough player can win a game of chess even if they lose their queen half way through the game. Probably not against a very good/evenly matched player, but a professional player would likely still easily beat an average player even if they started with NO queen at all.

I suppose you could modernise the game by letting the player pick which piece takes each role? An interesting twist .

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

and for Alf, they can both be shortened to 'Q''

I’ve shortened it to ….

Na .. best not




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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

?

Do you play chess?

The Queen is the strongest and most useful piece on the board but the game is about killing the King ... the King is still the rimary piece on the board. A skilled enough player can win a game of chess even if they lose their queen half way through the game. Probably not against a very good/evenly matched player, but a professional player would likely still easily beat an average player even if they started with NO queen at all.

I suppose you could modernise the game by letting the player pick which piece takes each role? An interesting twist .

I know the basics and even then I always relied very heavily on the Queen


As regards your idea about choosing which piece plays which role .. I’m thinking you could spice things up by each having two all-powerful Queens !!

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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I know the basics and even then I always relied very heavily on the Queen


As regards your idea about choosing which piece plays which role .. I’m thinking you could spice things up by each having two all-powerful Queens !!

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You can promote pawns to queens so, technically, you could have up to 9 queens. Realistically more than 2 or 3 seems unlikely

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

You can promote pawns to queens so, technically, you could have up to 9 queens. Realistically more than 2 or 3 seems unlikely

I did NOT know that !!

I knew you could double up in drafts / draughts …


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I did NOT know that !!

I knew you could double up in drafts / draughts …


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If you get a pawn all the way across the board you can promote it, gaining a 2nd queen is a quite common tactic. I guess you could call one Liz and one Camilla

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

If you get a pawn all the way across the board you can promote it, gaining a 2nd queen is a quite common tactic. I guess you could call one Liz and one Camilla

Ahhh

I just use the pawns as cannon fodder to make openings for my knights / Queen / castles


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[Livia]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well she has been UNDER him since the 70’s ... allegedly




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Here we go again.

[Livia]

The poll speaks volumes.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

The poll speaks volumes.

Oddly enough the poll does not reflect the comments/feelings on this very thread ?!?

There were about 6 detractors on page 1 alone from what I can see

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Oddly enough the poll does not reflect the comments/feelings on this very thread ?!?

There were about 6 detractors on page 1 alone from what I can see

Because the minority is small but you're all so loud and relentless.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Livia

Because the minority is small but you're all so loud and relentless.

Roughly a third are against it. That's a significant percentage.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Good point !!

I wonder why the creators gave all the power to the Queen ??

Very modern idea !!


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Before chess came to Europe there was no queen, the piece was the king's advisor but its moves were more restricted. The queen was introduced to Europe in the 15th century and it's believed the queen was made a powerful figure because of European queens at the time and their power struggles. That's how I understand it at least.