[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

[West End play tells white theatregoers they
aren't welcome as it hosts all-black audience
nights at Kit Harington production to 'protect'
ticketholders from 'the white gaze'
Two evenings will be left open to an
'all-Black identifying audience']


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hite-gaze.html

Whoever came up with that idea deserves to be fired from their job, and put in a Mental Ward.

[Crimson Dynamo]

what next a muslim play with big banners saying

NO JEWS

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what next a muslim play with big banners saying

NO JEWS

Oh, didn't you hear? Palestinians are the only people to ever have been invaded. And that somehow affects muslims who've never been and have no relatives from there.

[smudgie]

.
So, people in a mixed race relationship won’t be able to see it together then.
What exactly is meant by white gaze, is it gazing at the drama on stage or gazing at other theatre goers.
Surely being all inclusive would be more beneficial to all.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by smudgie

.
So, people in a mixed race relationship won’t be able to see it together then.
What exactly is meant by white gaze, is it gazing at the drama on stage or gazing at other theatre goers.
Surely being all inclusive would be more beneficial to all.

…yeah, (…I believe…)…that ‘identify as’ covers mixed race couples also as the play has aspects of that topic also…


…anyway, as I say…my personal leaning is that this isn’t the right way and will only fuel something which is already divided more and more in current times so I’m not ‘defending’ either, just trying to understand all of the reasoning and thought behind it…I’m sure this all wasn’t the intention but it’s the outcome of something that wasn’t really well thought out with other options…

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by smudgie

.
So, people in a mixed race relationship won’t be able to see it together then.
What exactly is meant by white gaze, is it gazing at the drama on stage or gazing at other theatre goers.
Surely being all inclusive would be more beneficial to all.

and of course be "being inclusive" you mean like any other normal theatre in the entire world that does not care a hoot what climate-induced skin colouring you have

[bots]

would blind/sight impaired people be allowed in?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Essex man Captain Norval Sinclair Marley would not be welcome to attend with his son Robert

[Livia]

I find it disturbing that a theatre can attempt to welcome only black people to a performance while at the same time casting black actors in roles clearly meant to be white characters. I saw a film recently where a black Guardsman was cast in Victorian times. The first black man entered the Guards in the 1986 and he had a bloody awful time. Pretending that there were black Guardsmen in Victoria's era is not only an insult to what he went through, it makes unthinking people imagine that it was true and everything was fine back then when the very reverse is true. For some people films will be the only history they ever get. I wonder why black people put up with it and don't demand that their history is not distorted. Casting black actors as members of English society in history is ridiculous, just as ridiculous as casting a Jew or a working class person. You can't have a discussion about this though, or you're racist.

We have some fine black actors in this country and seeing them in roles that are believable is great. But I saw The Mousetrap, about a middle-class group of people set in the 1940s and half the cast were black. I can suspend my disbelief, but not that far.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Livia

I find it disturbing that a theatre can attempt to welcome only black people to a performance while at the same time casting black actors in roles clearly meant to be white characters. I saw a film recently where a black Guardsman was cast in Victorian times. The first black man entered the Guards in the 1986 and he had a bloody awful time. Pretending that there were black Guardsmen in Victoria's era is not only an insult to what he went through, it makes unthinking people imagine that it was true and everything was fine back then when the very reverse is true. For some people films will be the only history they ever get. I wonder why black people put up with it and don't demand that their history is not distorted. Casting black actors as members of English society in history is ridiculous, just as ridiculous as casting a Jew or a working class person. You can't have a discussion about this though, or you're racist.

We have some fine black actors in this country and seeing them in roles that are believable is great. But I saw The Mousetrap, about a middle-class group of people set in the 1940s and half the cast were black. I can suspend my disbelief, but not that far.

You only need to look at google's AI image generator in action to know what is going on. You can't get it to generate a picture of a white person as that is not inclusive (and they don't even realise the irony of what they are saying)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

You only need to look at google's AI image generator in action to know what is going on. You can't get it to generate a picture of a white person as that is not inclusive (and they don't even realise the irony of what they are saying)

Type into Google images - "stock image shoplifter"

[Beso]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Type into Google images - "stock image shoplifter"

Or mother Theresa fights poverty.

[Livia]

Legally, white folks, brown folks, blue folks any colour folks can go any time a performance is selling tickets to the public.

[arista]

White Folks can go in Alternate days.

The Plays Producer told LBC

[arista]

White Folks can go to the Theatre on Thurs and Saturdays
and other days

£32 to get into to see Slave

https://slaveplaylondon.com/your-visit/

[Redway]

This is it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

This is it.

"everyone gets the things they deserve"

and just who dictates what people "deserve"?



absolute nonsense

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"everyone gets the things they deserve"

and just who dictates what people "deserve"?



absolute nonsense

You being you wouldn’t exactly say anything else.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

You being you wouldn’t exactly say anything else.

note you dont address the actual point

one imagines you cant

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

note you dont address the actual point

one imagines you cant

You’re here to offer an opinion just like anyone else and that’s fine but there’s only so much I can engage with someone who doesn’t even have the type of purview to hear people out on this one and understand why people might back it up. You drop race-bait as a casual hobby.

[Niamh.]

There is an International men's day btw ^^^

[Redway]

I actually kinda take Livia’s point about casting the right actor for the part when skin colour would make a realistic difference but I still can’t not be alright with this particular black-only night.