[Liberty4eva]

Personally, if I was a kid I would not want gay parents. I'm also a naturalist, I suppose, and if it couldn't happen in nature then I'm inclined to not be in favor of it.

It's complicated but ya know if we made it illegal for gay couples to adopt it wouldn't stop them from having children. If they really really really want a child, what's stopping them from sucking it up and having a child with a member of the opposite sex?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

It's complicated but ya know if we made it illegal for gay couples to adopt it wouldn't stop them from having children. If they really really really want a child, what's stopping them from sucking it up and having a child with a member of the opposite sex?

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

If they really really really want a child, what's stopping them from sucking it up and having a child with a member of the opposite sex?

wat?!!

dear me

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Personally, if I was a kid I would not want gay parents. I'm also a naturalist, I suppose, and if it couldn't happen in nature then I'm inclined to not be in favor of it.

It's complicated but ya know if we made it illegal for gay couples to adopt it wouldn't stop them from having children. If they really really really want a child, what's stopping them from sucking it up and having a child with a member of the opposite sex?

You are kidding right? If gay guys had sex with members of the opposite sex, then this debate wouldn't exist.

[cub]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

You are kidding right? If gay guys had sex with members of the opposite sex, then this debate wouldn't exist.

Who is the gay male celbrity that's just done that? Is it Clay Aiken?

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

It's complicated but ya know if we made it illegal for gay couples to adopt it wouldn't stop them from having children. If they really really really want a child, what's stopping them from sucking it up and having a child with a member of the opposite sex?

Christ in heaven above.

Maybe because many gays don't like the idea of intercourse with the opposite sex? You might want to look up the word homosexual in the dictionary.

[Grimnir]

If they are a mature and responsible gay couple who have been together for a good number of years and you know they would be loving parents then yes they should be able to adopt children from foster care.
If it was a young gay couple in early 20s who have only been together a few months, go out on piss every weekend and had many relationships and not responsible then 100% NO.
The foster care agencies should decide case by case same as they do for any other couple straight or gay.

[cub]

Originally Posted by Grimnir

If they are a mature and responsible gay couple who have been together for a good number of years and you know they would be loving parents then yes they should be able to adopt children from foster care.

What about a straight couple applying to that rule too?

Why should a gay couple have to prove they are any more responsible than a straight couple?

What are you suggesting about gay couples?

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by cub

What about a straight couple applying to that rule too?

Why should a gay couple have to prove they are any more responsible than a straight couple?

What are you suggesting about gay couples?

What are you suggesting about straight couples? That it's easier to adopt than it is to fill out a library card application form? Grimnir's merely pointing out the same kind of procedures and standards that adoption agencies look for in all couples, he's not suggesting that dem gayz have to prove something extra.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by cub

What about a straight couple applying to that rule too?

Why should a gay couple have to prove they are any more responsible than a straight couple?

What are you suggesting about gay couples?

Why on earth did you not the quote the bit which answers your very question - the guy clearly said "The foster care agencies should decide case by case same as they do for any other couple straight or gay".

You seem very keen to insinuate that people are being homophobic

[Greg.!]

i am very torn, i am personally not gay but i know alot of gay people who want kids but the kids at school would tease the child. especially if it was a girl it would be stranger.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Yeh you know what, this is a difficult one I know lesbian couples who have kids from previous relationships and one thats had IVF. I veer towards the way of thinking that if theres two loving parents then so what! and we are supposed to be striving for a world where there is no stigma attached to being gay, then we should accept it as normal, but then I also think kids should have role models of both sexes and there needs to be that in their lives if theyre going to grow up well rounded

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Always_RiGHt

That sounds rather strange,

"found you lot to be very interesting"

NO!!!

Oh I wonder why you were banned?!

[Annie]

I think they should be allowed to adopt children - a gay couple can be a loving set of parents just like a hetrosexual couple. Sometimes the children might feel that they are different but they would soon enough realise that they have two parents who love them dearly and some other children will be in broken families with single parents.

I think a gay couple should have been together for a certain number of years before they get the chance to adopt to prove that they are serious together and want to commit.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Oh I wonder why you were banned?!

LOL. You can always rely on Nodick to put forward a balanced, well thought out argument.

I like the fact that, in his latest username, he used upper and lower case letters in the same way I have in my username. I wonder what that’s about?

On topic - I think if a child has two loving parents then that all they need and sexuality is irrelevant. I understand that a child may be the target of bullying but I think that’s much better than unloved children growing up in a dysfunctional family.

[M X]

Yes, why not?

[XxShortyxX]

Yes! Defo, why shouldn't they? Maybe I am bias because I am bi.

[pinkmichk]

of course they should cant see no problem in it myself

[bronaaaa]

Aye of course

[LemonJam]

As long as the two parents love each other and can set a good example for the children then I don't see the problem.

[Sam!]

Originally posted by DamonJ
I'm in mixed minds about this. I'm gay but I would personally love kids, and surely the only way is to adopt, BUT, I wouldn't want the child to be bullied at school for having gay parents and no mother, also I wouldn't like to answer the difficult questions when the kid gets older like "Why don't I have a Mum like everyone else?"

Personally I think it is good for the parents, but it wouldn't benefit the children.

Yeh I agree. It would be good for the parents but not for the children.

[Z]

If a child's overweight, they might get bullied. If they wear glasses, they might get bullied. If they have a funny accent, they might get bullied. But these things aren't a certainty, and neither is the possibility that a child might get bullied because they have gay parents.

So yes, gay couples should be able to adopt. I can really only imagine it getting out of hand when the child is between the ages of say 8-13, where other kids learn what gay is and would maybe treat the child differently. But if there was a large number of gay people having kids, and it was more commonplace, then would that still happen? I don't think so.

It's all circumstantial.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Z
If a child's overweight, they might get bullied. If they wear glasses, they might get bullied. If they have a funny accent, they might get bullied. But these things aren't a certainty, and neither is the possibility that a child might get bullied because they have gay parents.

So yes, gay couples should be able to adopt. I can really only imagine it getting out of hand when the child is between the ages of say 8-13, where other kids learn what gay is and would maybe treat the child differently. But if there was a large number of gay people having kids, and it was more commonplace, then would that still happen? I don't think so.

It's all circumstantial.

Agree totally the bullying argument doesnt stand up

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by ukturtle
I have just read the thread about homophobes on here and found you lot to be very interesting, and it got me thinking about something somebody asked me the other day.

Should gay couples be allowed to adopt kids?

wheres the homophobe thread? Im intrigued...I found it

[GhettoSuperstar]

I think gay people should but obviously under good circumstances. I think things have moved on a lot for people to accept it more and this can be one more step towards it.
I was brought up with just one parent and I wouldn't have it any other way so its just a bonus that someone could have two.
I am gay but tbh I don't think I would adopt just because I don't think I'd make a good parent but a better uncle or whatnot.