[Niamh.]

NPHET have recommended 5pm Pub Closing times here, our Government haven't made a decision yet on whether to enforce that advice though

[Beso]

Anyone had this new sniffles variant yet?

[arista]

Originally Posted by over cooked turkey

Anyone had this new sniffles variant yet?

No
Is that what you feel Omicron is?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by arista

No
Is that what you feel Omicron is?

I know at least 6 people who have had, or have, covid in the past 3 weeks.

They all said you spend 2 days with the sniffles and a bit of a headache, but then the true horror comes.

You still have to spend 8 days in your bedroom.

[Nicky91]

for now no jabs for me


i'll wait it out until half january at least if it becomes lesser busy then what it now is with all those people coming in for their boosters

[bots]

Originally Posted by over cooked turkey

I know at least 6 people who have had, or have, covid in the past 3 weeks.

They all said you spend 2 days with the sniffles and a bit of a headache, but then the true horror comes.

You still have to spend 8 days in your bedroom.

right from the very beginning we know some people hardly notice covid and others get seriously ill or die

I believe with our current level of vaccination that people are panicking way too much, but the number of infections will mean hospital numbers will go up. We just don't know by how much yet

[Nicky91]

very nice of Anthony Fauci to say such wonderful words towards our virologist Marion Koopmans



https://www.metronieuws.nl/in-het-ni...chterkoopmans/

dutch article

but Dr Fauci wants our government to support her and he wants her not to give up on her work, how she is one of the best virologists from Netherlands and Globally

[arista]

Friday 17/12/21

111 Have Died
93,045 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,611

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
875

147,048 Total UK Deaths of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

It’s still increasing each day but does kinda look to be slowing down ??


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[AnnieK]

Got my booster tomorrow now

[bots]

i certainly dont think there is anything for anyone to be in a wild panic about yet

[arista]

The PM is to hold Cobra Meetings
over the weekend with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland


Ref:Times Radio Live

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta

i certainly dont think there is anything for anyone to be in a wild panic about yet

The NHS has no excess capacity ... like ... none. That is the panic. It's not a matter of "it wont be as bad as people think" - it can't be any amount of bad. Forget "a million cases a day" ... if hospital requirements increase 20% people are going to die in the corridors. If ambulance requirements increase 20% people are going to die in their homes (of non-covid things).

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

The NHS has no excess capacity ... like ... none. That is the panic. It's not a matter of "it wont be as bad as people think" - it can't be any amount of bad. Forget "a million cases a day" ... if hospital requirements increase 20% people are going to die in the corridors. If ambulance requirements increase 20% people are going to die in their homes (of non-covid things).

i think that is another example of vast exaggeration and stirring panic. There is plenty capacity in the nhs at the moment. Many beds lying empty etc etc etc. It's true that some things may suffer in order to deal with a more pressing need, but that has always been the case

[Cherie]

Just ordered our day 2 PCR tests, I could wait no longer, hope we can still get away think it will go to the wire tbh

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

NPHET have recommended 5pm Pub Closing times here, our Government haven't made a decision yet on whether to enforce that advice though

confirmed as 8pm now, how are these businesses supposed to survive, a terrible blow at this time of year

[arista]

England now has 65 Omicron Covid Patients in Hospitals.


SkyNewsHD/BBCnewsHD

[arista]

Irish PM live on SkyNewsHD

8PM Curfew On bars and the like To Prevent Omicron.


Also Large Venues
must now be no more than 50% in Ireland

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta

i think that is another example of vast exaggeration and stirring panic. There is plenty capacity in the nhs at the moment. Many beds lying empty etc etc etc. It's true that some things may suffer in order to deal with a more pressing need, but that has always been the case

It isn't unfortunately - my work involves working closely with various people within the NHS, my wife works in the NHS and also has a vast network of people she works with all across healthcare in both Scotland and England. Yes there are beds lying empty. There are entire wards lying empty.

There's no staff, and there are no resources.

People imagine patients spilling out the windows when they hear "no capacity" - that's not what it means. The NHS isn't buildings, it's staff and consumable resources, and it's teetering on the brink of collapse. I'm afraid that's just the reality of it. It's not because of Covid... it's because it was sabotaged to bait-and-switch with a semi privatised system ... deliberately, by the government. High-profile ministers wrote books about that intention. No one was paying attention.

They just failed to consider that there might be an actual healthcare emergency - which there now is.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

England now has 65 Omicron Covid Patients in Hospitals.


SkyNewsHD/BBCnewsHD

yes, but is covid the reason for being there? Being infected at this point means nothing

[bots]

More stringent restrictions need to be brought in "very soon" in England if ministers want to stop hospital admissions reaching 3,000 a day, the government's scientific advisers say.

The BBC has seen leaked minutes of a meeting of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies held on Thursday.

The document says there are "many uncertainties" about the future path of hospitalisations linked to Omicron.

It comes as Omicron is now dominant in England, new analysis suggests.

The number of people requiring treatment in hospital has been rising, with admissions being between 800 and 900 every day in the past week.

According to the leaked minutes, the Sage advisers say that without intervention measures beyond the Plan B rules currently in place, modelling indicates that hospital admissions could peak at "at least" 3,000 a day in England.

The current Plan B rules for England include Covid passes for certain events, face masks in more places and people being urged to work from home if they can.

The other nations of the UK had already brought in similar rules - and Scotland has gone further by asking people to limit social contact to three households at a time in the run-up to Christmas. Wales has also ordered nightclubs to close from 27 December.

The Sage minutes say: "If the aim is to reduce the levels of infection in the population and prevent hospitalisations reaching these levels, more stringent measures would need to be implemented very soon."

The record of the meeting goes on to say that measures equivalent to those in place after Step Two or Step One of the roadmap in England, if enacted early enough, "could substantially reduce the peak in hospital admissions and infections compared with Plan B alone".

Step One and Two of the roadmap for easing lockdown - which was in place in England in the Spring - banned indoor social contact and indoor hospitality. Step Three allowed six people, or two households, to meet indoors and indoor hospitality could reopen.

"The timing of such measures is crucial," say the Sage minutes. "Delaying until 2022 would greatly reduce the effectiveness of such interventions and make it less likely that these would prevent considerable pressure on health and care settings."

Sage meetings are designed to advise officials and ministers about the possible path of the pandemic in certain circumstances rather than offer up concrete predictions.

The Department of Health has been contacted for comment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59707252

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or, lockdown by the backdoor as it is more commonly known

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta

More stringent restrictions need to be brought in "very soon" in England if ministers want to stop hospital admissions reaching 3,000 a day, the government's scientific advisers say.

The BBC has seen leaked minutes of a meeting of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies held on Thursday.

The document says there are "many uncertainties" about the future path of hospitalisations linked to Omicron.

It comes as Omicron is now dominant in England, new analysis suggests.

The number of people requiring treatment in hospital has been rising, with admissions being between 800 and 900 every day in the past week.

According to the leaked minutes, the Sage advisers say that without intervention measures beyond the Plan B rules currently in place, modelling indicates that hospital admissions could peak at "at least" 3,000 a day in England.

The current Plan B rules for England include Covid passes for certain events, face masks in more places and people being urged to work from home if they can.

The other nations of the UK had already brought in similar rules - and Scotland has gone further by asking people to limit social contact to three households at a time in the run-up to Christmas. Wales has also ordered nightclubs to close from 27 December.

The Sage minutes say: "If the aim is to reduce the levels of infection in the population and prevent hospitalisations reaching these levels, more stringent measures would need to be implemented very soon."

The record of the meeting goes on to say that measures equivalent to those in place after Step Two or Step One of the roadmap in England, if enacted early enough, "could substantially reduce the peak in hospital admissions and infections compared with Plan B alone".

Step One and Two of the roadmap for easing lockdown - which was in place in England in the Spring - banned indoor social contact and indoor hospitality. Step Three allowed six people, or two households, to meet indoors and indoor hospitality could reopen.

"The timing of such measures is crucial," say the Sage minutes. "Delaying until 2022 would greatly reduce the effectiveness of such interventions and make it less likely that these would prevent considerable pressure on health and care settings."

Sage meetings are designed to advise officials and ministers about the possible path of the pandemic in certain circumstances rather than offer up concrete predictions.

The Department of Health has been contacted for comment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59707252

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or, lockdown by the backdoor as it is more commonly known

If admission are going up 900 a day that is 6000 a week but not reflected in the daily figures which are pretty steady ....what is going on

[arista]

[arista]