[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

It's probably as MTVN said then, the lawyer advised to stay quiet because they were being interviewed as a suspect with no actual evidence to do it. But then, there is no substantial evidence for virtually any scenario.

Her lawyer did advise that. As did Gerry's. Funnily enough, he ignored his lawyer.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If a child of yours went missing would you get out and look for them?...

I'de be out until I dropped Kizzy,I couldn't function normally,I'de be mortified so much so I don't think I'de want to live,the pain would be unbearable,I hate to even think about it,I don't know how people cope,I really don't.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Her lawyer did advise that. As did Gerry's. Funnily enough, he ignored his lawyer.

Well they do come across as very different people in regards to their personalities. She seems more timid, likely to listen. Gerry would do as he decides probably.

But yeah, I meant she followed his advise because she wasn't comfortable being a formal suspect as opposed to just helping clarify details for the investigation.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

as for the first question, I think as a mother if your child wasn't in her bed and in a foreign place, you'd know. I'm not a mother obviously, but she said the window was wide open and she just 'knew'. i think i'd have felt the same.

and the next one, shock maybe? I don't think its that much of a big deal. get all of her friends to help find madeline and call the police? what good would shouting from the veranda do? surely you would rather go and look + get all of your friends too?

That does make sense.

And yea it does seem like a good idea to get the others. It is strange why she didn't want to answer the questions to the police.

Also maybe the McCanns just do things a bit odd, not that they're mental are anything, just maybe kinda eccentric.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

That does make sense.

And yea it does seem like a good idea to get the others. It is strange why she didn't want to answer the questions to the police.

Also maybe the McCanns just do things a bit odd, not that they're mental are anything, just maybe kinda eccentric.

i think you're probably right. and i think losing a child might just do that to you

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

It's also really unfair to assume how someone should act when under such pressure, suffering, guilt, and grief. It's impossible to say "well I'd do this", because until anyone walks a mile in those shoes (and I hope no one ever does), you have absolutely no idea where their heads must have been.

I agree. I can't even imagine how I'd react

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

i think you're probably right. and i think losing a child might just do that to you

Very true but I mean also before this whole event. Like maybe they weren't the most normal of couples to begin with.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

No, but harping on about it isn't going to help anybody.. Everybody, including her parents just want some sort of closure on this horrible tragic case.

The McCanns want people to discuss it that's the whole point of the Crime watch special the other night.

Originally Posted by Ninastar

as for the first question, I think as a mother if your child wasn't in her bed and in a foreign place, you'd know. I'm not a mother obviously, but she said the window was wide open and she just 'knew'. i think i'd have felt the same.

and the next one, shock maybe? I don't think its that much of a big deal. get all of her friends to help find madeline and call the police? what good would shouting from the veranda do? surely you would rather go and look + get all of your friends too?

That's a decent point that plenty have brought up before and some would say a parent would just know/have a feeling but if like she said she knew as soon as she saw the empty bed that her daughter had been 'taken' then why did she waste the next 5/10 minutes searching the apartment 3 or more times instead of alerting everyone?

As for the next point well if I thought someone had just taken off with my daughter then there is no way in this world I would leave my other 2 children sleeping alone in that apartment.

Saying all that though, everyone of course will react differently in situations and maybe that's just the way she is but surely people can then see why some will question the things they have done after the disappearance.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

It's also really unfair to assume how someone should act when under such pressure, suffering, guilt, and grief. It's impossible to say "well I'd do this", because until anyone walks a mile in those shoes (and I hope no one ever does), you have absolutely no idea where their heads must have been.

ha you make absurd assumptions all the time.....we are dealing with the FACT these 3 children were neglected abroad and one of them died because of this, you seem to ignore this tragedy, which comes across as incredibly cold blooded of you

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I agree. I can't even imagine how I'd react

cant find the original quote but this is exactly how I feel.

who are we to judge? And the fact that the press pretty much openly pointed the finger at them numerous times throughout the case doesn't help. They probably thought that no matter what they said, would be twisted to sound awful. Which, wait a second... happened anyway!?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

why did she waste the next 5/10 minutes searching the apartment 3 or more times instead of alerting everyone?

Hoping she was wrong? I would guess she'd be in immediate shock and not wanting it to be true.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by the truth

ha you make absurd assumptions all the time.....we are dealing with the FACT these 3 children were neglected abroad and one of them died because of this, you seem to ignore this tragedy, which comes across as incredibly cold blooded of you

thing is, he's not ignoring the tragedy... he's being completely rational? No one here is saying the parents weren't neglectful. I'm pretty sure everyone here would admit hands down that what they did was bloody awful and entirely their fault that she disappeared. But to call someone cold blooded because they don't think that people should point their fingers and accuse Maddie's parents of kidnap/murder etc... it's just as much of an absurd assumption as you're accusing him of.

btw, saying she is dead is also an assumption. No one knows what has happened to her, hence being world wide news.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Hoping she was wrong? I would guess she'd be in immediate shock and not wanting it to be true.

Maybe? That's what I meant with my post, some people will question a lot of the things they have done because there is so many details and statements that have been changed over the years.

Just for an example...Kate said the reason she knew straight away her daughter was gone was because the window was left open but then they later changed the statement to something else.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

thing is, he's not ignoring the tragedy... he's being completely rational? No one here is saying the parents weren't neglectful. I'm pretty sure everyone here would admit hands down that what they did was bloody awful and entirely their fault that she disappeared. But to call someone cold blooded because they don't think that people should point their fingers and accuse Maddie's parents of kidnap/murder etc... it's just as much of an absurd assumption as you're accusing him of.

btw, saying she is dead is also an assumption. No one knows what has happened to her, hence being world wide news.

We have actually had a few people throughout the thread talking about how it wasnt that bad, same as nipping to the shop, not their fault, could happen to anyone..etc. Along with the parents saying on CM that they did nothing wrong. This is why people comment on how it IS neglect, they are awful parents, and it was their fault.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

We have actually had a few people throughout the thread talking about how it wasnt that bad, same as nipping to the shop, not their fault, could happen to anyone..etc. Along with the parents saying on CM that they did nothing wrong. This is why people comment on how it IS neglect, they are awful parents, and it was their fault.

ah right, didn't realise. sorry about that. just didnt want to go back 25 pages

No, i totally think it's their fault she went missing. i dont see how anyone can deny that. but to say they kidnapped her/murdered her, in my opinion, is absurd. but each to their own.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

ah right, didn't realise. sorry about that. just didnt want to go back 25 pages

No, i totally think it's their fault she went missing. i dont see how anyone can deny that. but to say they kidnapped her/murdered her, in my opinion, is absurd. but each to their own.

I wouldn't say it's absurd, in a lot of cases to do with children being harmed/going missing etc it's a relative/friend of the family

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I wouldn't say it's absurd, in a lot of cases to do with children being harmed/going missing etc it's a relative/friend of the family

And there is the same amount of actual evidence for the parents having something to do with it as there is for an abduction too...none

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I wouldn't say it's absurd, in a lot of cases to do with children being harmed/going missing etc it's a relative/friend of the family

yeah, I know that, but I can't imagine anyone alerting the press and making it such a worldwide search if they were the ones who had done it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

yeah, I know that, but I can't imagine anyone alerting the press and making it such a worldwide search if they were the ones who had done it.

remember Shannon Matthews?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

thing is, he's not ignoring the tragedy... he's being completely rational? No one here is saying the parents weren't neglectful. I'm pretty sure everyone here would admit hands down that what they did was bloody awful and entirely their fault that she disappeared. But to call someone cold blooded because they don't think that people should point their fingers and accuse Maddie's parents of kidnap/murder etc... it's just as much of an absurd assumption as you're accusing him of.

btw, saying she is dead is also an assumption. No one knows what has happened to her, hence being world wide news.

I don't think he is rational at all, he just gets off on being cold blooded and playing with peoples emotions, its horrible. This was beyond neglect, they should have been thoroughly investigated by social services for starters. Oh and by the way no one here is accusing them of murder are they, so why are you misquoting people here? People are saying for the 100th time, they should be investigated more thoroughly and that much of their story didn't add up. Also that these kids were neglected it seems for years leading up to this tragedy. Lets hope if anything comes from this avoidable tragedy, that parents never again behave with such gross negligence when taking small children abroad

[Vicky.]

http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/...portugal/29659

The Deputy Director of News at Sic Television was meanwhile reported to have exchanged e-mails with the BBC in the days running up to the Crimewatch programme in order to secure the rights to the full programme, but to no avail.
“The BBC said they are not selling the rights”, Martim Cabral told The Portugal News, “therefore we cannot show it.”
Another Portuguese news channel, TVI, told The Portugal News that it had contacted the British national broadcaster prior to the airing of the show, as it sought to “acquire the programme for Portugal, which was denied.”
“Should the BBC change its position and should TVI continue to show an interest, it is certain that we will look at transmitting the programme in question.
“TVI has also requested the BBC clarify this situation with British media to avoid more erroneous interpretations, such as those claiming Portuguese television channels are not interested in transmitting the programme.”

Quite strange. Surely the best thing for the investigation is to broadcast in the country that it happened in :S

Our papers say Portugal CHOSE not to broadcast it.

[Kizzy]

Hmm, the whole thing is just so odd... you can forgive some for suspecting foul play as this is not a very clear cut case is it?

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

remember Shannon Matthews?

i do. but again, i do not believe the parents are involved at all, and i personally think it's crazy to think so.

but that's just me. no sense in trying to change my opinion on it. i know there are some god-awful parents out there, i just don't think these ones are bad enough to kill/abduct madeline.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

i do. but again, i do not believe the parents are involved at all, and i personally think it's crazy to think so.

but that's just me. no sense in trying to change my opinion on it. i know there are some god-awful parents out there, i just don't think these ones are bad enough to kill/abduct madeline.

I don't either, but I do think they're foolish enough to neglect their children, come home to discover a tragic accident and are smart enough to cover it up and pull off a bold lie.

I don't want to believe that that is what happened, but I just can't find any other logic that explains why they've obstructed the police's attempts to find their missing daughter other than because they've got something to hide. :/

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Zee

I don't either, but I do think they're foolish enough to neglect their children, come home to discover a tragic accident and are smart enough to cover it up and pull off a bold lie.

I don't want to believe that that is what happened, but I just can't find anything other logic that explains why they've obstructed the police's attempts to find their missing daughter other than because they've got something to hide. :/

I would say the time and effort they have put in to keep this case so high profile and the encouragement they have given for the authorities to continue to look in to it outweighs any of their actions that could possibly be seen as obstructive though (and most of these I think there is generally a logical explanation for)