[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if he does end up president its because the people want him to be. They have had plenty opportunity to vote for other people, so it would be no accident.

well why would some people want trump as president?


and also on CNN, someone is comparing Trump to Reagan, because Donald Trump is an entertainer, well if starting riots is entertainment, omg

[Tom4784]

At best, he's only going to get the nomination and that's looking a bit dicey at the moment due to Cruz's resurgence.

If Trump gets nominated then he'll be a free win for the Democrats, I'm kinda hoping he does get the nom just to cement the Democrats' victory. The winner of the election is dependent on the swing states and there's no way that Donald Trump will appeal to them because they tend to be more moderate.

[the truth]

Trump isn't as extreme as ted cruz. Trump will move slightly more to the middle if he wins. He doesn't advocate any social security cuts, he wants to put more into mental health. He wants to increase tariffs on the Chinese dumping. He doesn't take a penny from corporations, none these are not far right policies. He didn't support the illegal Iraqi invasion, Clinton did. Clinton is a corporate lackey with dozens of backers, she will simply oversee the massive worldwide corporate takeover with the TTIB

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by the truth

Trump isn't as extreme as ted cruz. Trump will move slightly more to the middle if he wins. He doesn't advocate any social security cuts, he wants to put more into mental health. He wants to increase tariffs on the Chinese dumping. He doesn't take a penny from corporations, none these are not far right policies. He didn't support the illegal Iraqi invasion, Clinton did. Clinton is a corporate lackey with dozens of backers, she will simply oversee the massive worldwide corporate takeover with the TTIB

People will see Trump as the more extreme of the two though due to the controversy around him. Despite being as bad, Cruz is seen as the lesser of two evils.

Either way, they'll both get destroyed by the Democrats, it's just that Trump will be easier to annihilate.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

People will see Trump as the more extreme of the two though due to the controversy around him. Despite being as bad, Cruz is seen as the lesser of two evils.

Either way, they'll both get destroyed by the Democrats, it's just that Trump will be easier to annihilate.

I think cruz will give Hillary a close challenge..I think Bernie would beat both.
Clinton is evil, a very divisive , corrupt , corporate lackey and warwonger. I don't even trust her with the health insurance. No doubt Ill be told im being sexist again. ha. how sexist is it to bomb a country illegally on a pack of lies, lest we forget over a million innocents died and over half a million of them were women. that's what I call real politik sexism. a damn sight worse than any other version. She is also profoundly sexist herself getting madeleine allbright to say, any woman who doesn't back a woman goes to hell. Now that is offensive and sexist but in the current climate of double standards she gets away with it.

as for trump. lets break this down what is the craziest thing he has said?

1) hes been demanding we raise tariffs on Chinese steel for a decade. right or wrong? RIGHT
2) Hes the ONLY candidate who has discussed the 10 million+ illegal immigrants coming in from mexico? there is no border there is no defence, do a lot of them bring massive crime and drugs. YES. Not all, but a lot and saying they should have their paperwork checked and brought in legally is RIGHT
3) the Jihadi threat. We in Europe has 1000s of jihadis amongst us. we have open borders, the Schengen agreement means these terrorists are not even checked, we don't even have competent intelligence in many EU nations, we have had infinitely more terrorist attacks than America as a result of our insane policies and insane leadership. Trump has called for a temporary shutdown on muslims entering the usa until the government can work out what the hell is going on. Ok totally unreasonable an a soundbite to win the far right, everyone knows that. BUT massively increasing our checks on people entering the country he is 100% RIGHT again. The 1st rule of government is to protect the people.

4) Increase military funding to wipe out ISIS and stopping arming rebels we don't know , RIGHT.

5) Refusing corporate handouts for his election campaign, like Bernie, 100% RIGHT

6) raising taxes on the richest, RIGHT

7) Keeping social security as it is in line with inflation, RIGHT

8) Increase spending on mental health to counter violence and gun violence

9) Increase spending on the police and nati terrorism budget, RIGHT

Other candidates have simply buried their heads in the political sands whilst the whole world goes up in smoke

ok so whats he been wrong about?

He thinks obamacare should be replaced with a more efficient system,
sounds like a nightmare. No doubt with 40 odd million extra patients on the government programme you will have masses of waste and over burocracy and premiums are still too high and hurt the smaller businesses. again it would be interesting to actually hear these arguments instead of the utter nonsense weve heard on all sides about hands and trumps hair etc and hillarys false indignation. everyone is avoiding the issues.

He thinks the extra funding for mental health, police, anti terror and crime budgets will help reduce gun crime. But he supports the 2nd amendment fully and argues guns also help fight criminals and protect the good people. We are too smug on guns in Europe. I hate guns but whilst gun deaths are way lower in Europe as we always hear, the actual figures on violent crime , drug related theft are astonishingly higher in the UK and Europe. at 100ss of times the rate of the USA> reading between the lines, something we don't too because of our hysterical media, a vast number fo violent crimes, thefts, drug related crime are stopped by guns in America....so overall I think he is more WRONG ON THIS.

Abortion. he was hoodwinked there. he doesn't like abortion , who does? millions of babies terminated before they get a chance to live. Now what he was saying is he will tighten the laws around abortion and support people with other options. Of course ,rape , incest, health complications are exceptions. But he doesn't want to finance abortion, he wants to change the fact many parents, women especially feel rushed or pressured and without options on abortion and regret it afterwards.

The vast majority of abortions are down to the womans financial situation. So why not help with that? In many cases they feel they haven't got the finances to support a child. There are many other options such as fostering and adopting children. The radical feminists say its patronising to women to suggest they don't think it though etc That false outrage is offensive and damaging. we are talking sometimes about teenage girls, some with health, poor, drugs, alcoholic, mental health related issues or simply poorly educated. Isnt it sensible to support such women, with as much time and support as possible so they can look at and understand all options open to them and the father of their unborn child? Abortion has become far too populist imo hence why we have record numbers of late abortions. The feminists can say what they like about the womens choice to abort, but what about the womens right to not abort? the rights of the unborn child and the fathers too?

He said under pressure yes there must be punishment if a woman aborts a child illegally. Then he changed his mind and said the doctor would be charged if he aborted a baby outside of the laws. That IS the case in the UK and everywhere else? if you abort after 24 weeks, the doctor will be punished. so why the hysteria?. Abortion should be legal up to a point. But 24 weeks is obscene....millions of healthy babies are born before 24 weeks. I think the radical feminist take on this is horrific. Anyone who suggests anything to encourage fewer abortions and support parents and women into looking at all options is seen as woman hating? what a a pile of absolute nonsense.
saldy like most things with political correctness, all discussion dies along with millions of innocent unborn babies

[arista]

From CNN Live :
NY Primary likely
Republican voters

54% Donald Trump
22% John Kaisch
15% Ted Cruz

[arista]

the Boston Globe has done a Mock Up
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Debated on MediaBuzz today

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

From CNN Live :
NY Primary likely
Republican voters

54% Donald Trump
22% John Kaisch
15% Ted Cruz

this is so depressing

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

this is so depressing

nowhere near as depressing as that idiot merkel destroying all of Europe and allowing 1000s of terrorists access across the whole continent and back and forth to the middle east unchecked. America gets almost no terrorism we get 100s of attacks every year. some foiled but tragically many get through and will continue to do so...the EU is insane and yet we sit here and judge how America is run?

[bots]

Originally Posted by the truth

nowhere near as depressing as that idiot merkel destroying all of Europe and allowing 1000s of terrorists access across the whole continent and back and forth to the middle east unchecked. America gets almost no terrorism we get 100s of attacks every year. some foiled but tragically many get through and will continue to do so...the EU is insane and yet we sit here and judge how America is run?

100's of terrorist attacks every year? Seriously?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

100's of terrorist attacks every year? Seriously?

yes, really 100s of planned attacks, the majority of which are foiled or go wrong. yes 100s and yes there are 1000s of jihadis all over Europe. around 34,000 innocent people were randomly murdered by isamic jihadis last year...That is the reality of the idiotic and insane position we are in now thanks to our spineless leaders

[Ammi]

..Ted Cruz is definitely extremely worrying in his views and not a 'better' alternative to Donald Trump but the most worrying thing of all I think, is that in present days, such prejudiced/extreme candidates can get so far as they have at all...

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..Ted Cruz is definitely extremely worrying in his views and not a 'better' alternative to Donald Trump but the most worrying thing of all I think, is that in present days, such prejudiced/extreme candidates can get so far as they have at all...

That kind of over the top language of the left is also just as dangerous, theyre calling everying racist now, when the reality is we are under massive threat from radical jihadis and illegal immigration. The real underlying problem is the fact we are still arming so called rebels in the middle east and the weapons are then flaling into the hands of ISIS al Qaeda Taliban and whatever other names these radical terrorists have

[arista]

As Predicated
Trump Wins New York Primary
Live on all news

http://news.sky.com/story/1681717/do...ry-in-new-york

[Xtopher]

Never forget 7/11. Thanks New York.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Xtopher

Never forget 7/11. Thanks New York.

Yes a Error he spoke yesterday

9/11 _ Terrorist

7/11 _ Store open many hours

[the truth]

gutted bernie lost by 15%
trump destroyed ted cruz
but results as expected for the 2 new york based candidates
looks like a trump clinton ticket now
all thats left to answer is will it be over before the conventions?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

this is so depressing

Very depressing.

Consolation able to be held onto in the belief that overall the USA will not elect him as President, even less so with a begrudged ticket for him to run for the presidency by his own Republican party.
No way would he beat Hilary,no way at all.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Very depressing.

Consolation able to be held onto in the belief that overall the USA will not elect him as President, even less so with a begrudged ticket for him to run for the presidency by his own Republican party.
No way would he beat Hilary,no way at all.

delighted to see 59% of new york women voted trump, they see through the lies and see the truth
hilary is a liar a warmonger a corporate lackey and a man hater who will not protect the people and has created holy hell in the middle east
donald trump is a businessman who speaks his mind and doesnt sell out as a corporate lackey ad promises to protect the people and dares to talk about topics all other politicians are too gutless and cowardly to talk about

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

delighted to see 59% of new york women voted trump, they see through the lies and see the truth
hilary is a liar a warmonger a corporate lackey and a man hater who will not protect the people and has created holy hell in the middle east
donald trump is a businessman who speaks his mind and doesnt sell out as a corporate lackey ad promises to protect the people and dares to talk about topics all other politicians are too gutless and cowardly to talk about

I try to respond to anyone who responds to my posts at least once, however needless to say, unfortunately again,I disagree with every word of your post.
Except for the 59% of NY women voting for him.
They do have extremely poor choices however on the Republican side,in my view, this time round.

[MTVN]

The interesting thing is that the vast majority of recent polls put John Kasich as beating Hilary in the general election while Cruz and Trump lag well behind. It would probably take some serious fixing from the party for Kasich to be their candidate but he'd be their best shot.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I try to respond to anyone who responds to my posts at least once, however needless to say, unfortunately again,I disagree with every word of your post.
Except for the 59% of NY women voting for him.
They do have extremely poor choices however on the Republican side,in my view, this time round.

new york women are the smartest women in the world, they recognise the truth. trump talks from the heart, trump will protect the public, trump will say what he really thinks, trump will protect social security, trump will protect the american industries and slap tariffs on the rubbish chinese steel being illegally dumped on the american market, trump will dare to talk about the most difficult topics other spineless politicians will avoid. as for you disagreeing with everything I say, did hillary vote for the illegal iraq invasion? is she backed by loads of corporations? is she paid a fortune by these corporations for speeches? has she said like trump she will defend social security? has she said we should increase tariffs on chinese steel? is she responsible for the benghazi cock ups and lies? is she partly responsible for the disaster left behind in libya? the rise of isis after the illegal invasion of iraq? the email fiasco? the implication that democratic race wasnt over in 2008 as assassinations have happened before? classy lady etc etc

[the truth]

Originally Posted by MTVN

The interesting thing is that the vast majority of recent polls put John Kasich as beating Hilary in the general election while Cruz and Trump lag well behind. It would probably take some serious fixing from the party for Kasich to be their candidate but he'd be their best shot.

it is rather bizarre how he does well in that hypothetical match up, but its irrelevant. kasich is pretty uninspiring imo. he hasnt been scrutinised like trump either. they all have some skeletons in their closets

trump will close the gap on hilary over time as she has such an horrific record. The main problem he will have is the corporate and political corruption that drives clintons campaign. he is up against a massive machine here that has been in place for decades

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