[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Many people like the flexibility and if it suits the company..

Yes thats so true


Legit Zero Hours
even used by Kizzys Labour Party

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

STOP giving us positive news,no one is interested,people want something to whinge at.

Anyone would love to get 'genuine' positive good news but when people are being told all is rosy after only 1 years better figures, following on from over 3 disastrous years, where people have not seen anything positive as to their incomes or working lives.
It is hard to get excited at the snippets we now are getting.

The Bank of England today has downgraded its growth forecast for the UK
This happened in 2010 at the point and after the austerity cuts were implemented and took effect.
We have had an easing of austerity in the run up to the election, now the cuts will be being brought in again severely soon.

Maybe this positive news you are crowing about will turn into another good period of disaster for lives nd incomes again, when those austerity measures maybe again cut off the fragile growth in place at the present time.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This great news will be welcomed by all those millions who voted for more cuts to keep the economy moving on the correct path.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I'd like to see the figure without zero-hours contracts included.

Absolutely right, I will never accept anyone is in full time employment on a zero hours contract, so if they are on one, they should still not be stated as to being in full employment.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Absolutely right, I will never accept anyone is in full time employment on a zero hours contract, so if they are on one, they should still not be stated as to being in full employment.

Being in recruitment I speak to many job seekers on a daily basis and whilst I agree there area lot of negatives with zero hour contracts, I regularly speak to people who are getting 40+ hours on zero hour contracts on good rates of oay and have turned down interview for permanent contracts because of the flexibility they get plus the hours they are offered.

It's not an ideal situation but for some they are happy with them....

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Anyone would love to get 'genuine' positive good news but when people are being told all is rosy after only 1 years better figures, following on from over 3 disastrous years, where people have not seen anything positive as to their incomes or working lives.
It is hard to get excited at the snippets we now are getting.

The Bank of England today has downgraded its growth forecast for the UK
This happened in 2010 at the point and after the austerity cuts were implemented and took effect.
We have had an easing of austerity in the run up to the election, now the cuts will be being brought in again severely soon.

Maybe this positive news you are crowing about will turn into another good period of disaster for lives nd incomes again, when those austerity measures maybe again cut off the fragile growth in place at the present time.

I am not crowing,I was trying to lighten the doom and gloom,by having a lighthearted bit of banter.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I am not crowing,I was trying to lighten the doom and gloom,by having a lighthearted bit of banter.

if you cant celebrate this great news...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Being in recruitment I speak to many job seekers on a daily basis and whilst I agree there area lot of negatives with zero hour contracts, I regularly speak to people who are getting 40+ hours on zero hour contracts on good rates of oay and have turned down interview for permanent contracts because of the flexibility they get plus the hours they are offered.

It's not an ideal situation but for some they are happy with them....

I personally wouldn't ban zero hours contracts, I would prefer they didn't exist but for those that really want them, fine,as long as they 'really' do want them that is.


However a zero hours contract is what it says, great if you get many hours a week but you are not under such a contract guaranteed any.
Also under the contract and come holidays or sickness you will get no pay then either.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

if you cant celebrate this great news...

Me right now

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

if you cant celebrate this great news...

To quote a very wise lady ... Rejoice, rejoice, rejoice

[empire]

thanks to zero hour contracts that rip off the hard working people of this country, thank you labour-tory policy, for that one

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Me right now

me

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

me

what happened there LT?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Being in recruitment I speak to many job seekers on a daily basis and whilst I agree there area lot of negatives with zero hour contracts, I regularly speak to people who are getting 40+ hours on zero hour contracts on good rates of oay and have turned down interview for permanent contracts because of the flexibility they get plus the hours they are offered.

It's not an ideal situation but for some they are happy with them....

I'm on a zero hour contract and I can go from 50 hours one week to 10 the next

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

what happened there LT?

wanking accident

[Jamesy]

Zero hour contracts highly depend on your employer. I know some people who are on zero hour contracts and their hours are pretty stable and provide them with a stable income. Other people I know have one week full time then the next week one afternoon of work, with hours all over the place and no stable income to keep them living.

On the whole I'm against zero hour contracts. They're okay when you're young and live with your parents, you have someone to fall back on. Although for adults with their own home and bills and more it's not suitable at all.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No Marsh is hard UKIP and Nedusa, Kirk and MB

I wish you'd stop outing me this way.

[MB.]

(two of my milestone posts in a row have been about UKIP. What have I become)

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jack_

People's livelihoods > the economy

Guess I must just be a more compassionate person than most to care more about standards of living than deficit reduction.

And before someone mentions it, it is a myth that the latter has a positive impact on the former. If people aren't paid enough to sustain a sufficient standard of life, who gives a flying **** if the economy is improving for those in the middle and at the top?

creating 2 million plus jobs IS real compassion, destroying the economy like new labour is cruelty

[the truth]

Originally Posted by empire

thanks to zero hour contracts that rip off the hard working people of this country, thank you labour-tory policy, for that one

only 2% of jobs are zero hours so don't worry too much....besides in real politiks these workers if theyre doing a fine job will soon either be offered more work better pay and a contract or will be able to go to a bigger and better job

[Kizzy]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...-staff-figures

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Jack_

People's livelihoods > the economy

Guess I must just be a more compassionate person than most to care more about standards of living than deficit reduction.

And before someone mentions it, it is a myth that the latter has a positive impact on the former. If people aren't paid enough to sustain a sufficient standard of life, who gives a flying **** if the economy is improving for those in the middle and at the top?

Preach. Thank god some people speak sense on here.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes thats so true


Legit Zero Hours
even used by Kizzys Labour Party

Stop using my name in your posts.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Preach. Thank god some people speak sense on here.

when unemployment falls.....productivity rises, crime falls, tax revenues increase so more money to pay for public services, the government is then able to lower taxes on the lowest earners and take them out of tax totally.....there are also working tax credits available to lower earners....whilst in work people rise in pay over time, learn all the time, add more experience and skills all the time, including knowledge, social skills , confidence etc make social contacts speak to potential employers and find further opportunities.....its a win win win win.......work always defeat all opponents....this is why the tories won- JOBS

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

only 2% of jobs are zero hours so don't worry too much....besides in real politiks these workers if theyre doing a fine job will soon either be offered more work better pay and a contract or will be able to go to a bigger and better job

With respect that all sounds good but will rarely come about.
No one should have to be on one if they don't want to be and are seeking 'real' full time work.
Far too many of a growing number of employers are probably now,in my view,exploiting these contracts and using them at times when they don't even need to.

I think with these in place,very few are likely to get a better contract and more regular hours weekly unless the employer is actually made to do so.Greedy employers are part of the problem,not the solution