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Old 07-10-2015, 06:04 PM #1
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You're putting words in my mouth. I said he shouldn't get off SCOT FREE, not that he should be treated as an adult and locked up until the end of days. It's a bit hypocritical you saying that I should know better because of my job, when you're doing the exact same thing as a mod.
Who said he should get off scot free. I didn't see anyone suggest that.
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Who said he should get off scot free. I didn't see anyone suggest that.
I wasn't replying to anyone so that's invalid.
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You're putting words in my mouth. I said he shouldn't get off SCOT FREE, not that he should be treated as an adult and locked up until the end of days. It's a bit hypocritical you saying that I should know better because of my job, when you're doing the exact same thing as a mod.
You actually said in your very first post that he should be locked up for life lol I'm doing what exactly as a mod?
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What if the child kills again in later life? That would be another innocent person dead because they didn't lock him up when they had the chance.

He won't learn from his actions if he gets off scot-free.
What ifs don't make for compelling arguments especially when it comes to law, you should know that.

'Oh, he MIGHT kill or he MAY be a danger, we don't know that and we don't even now a single thing about his mental state but let's try the child as an adult and for first degree murder just 'cus!'
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What ifs don't make for compelling arguments especially when it comes to law, you should know that.

'Oh, he MIGHT kill or he MAY be a danger, we don't know that and we don't even now a single thing about his mental state but let's try the child as an adult and for first degree murder just 'cus!'
Ugh I hate it when people define me by my job. Guess what? We're not in a court room. I don't need to be professional here because I'm not at work. Also you're the same as Niamh, putting words into my mouth.
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Ugh I hate it when people define me by my job. Guess what? We're not in a court room. I don't need to be professional here because I'm not at work. Also you're the same as Niamh, putting words into my mouth.
Now that we've established your first claim - that you were a "defence attorney" - doesn't exist in English law, you now claim to be a solicitor, don't you? If that's the case you would not be doing your job in a court room. If you did you would be a barrister. You really do need to sort out your facts, Ashley.
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Now that we've established your first claim - that you were a "defence attorney" - doesn't exist in English law, you now claim to be a solicitor, don't you? If that's the case you would not be doing your job in a court room. If you did you would be a barrister. You really do need to sort out your facts, Ashley.
Here you go again, trying to make me look bad by bringing up my personal life. I've already told you I'm not discussing it with you so stop digging.
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I just read an American legal article that said, up until 2005 child killers could be sentenced to death. Between 1975 and 2005 four child killers were executed once they hit adult age.
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Also, Niamh and Dezzy, I assume you've heard of prosecution.
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I'm sure the boy will be thoroughly checked by medical experts and his state of mind etc will be decided by experts who will then deduce his understanding of what he has done. We are in no way aware of the full facts of this case. It is an extremely sad story, not least for the family of the girl who died.
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Now I suggest you put me on your ignore list, and get on with your life.
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Now I suggest you put me on your ignore list, and get on with your life.
That's not your call, thanks.
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In the USA I thought a practising lawyer was an attorney and is permitted to perform either the functions of a solicitor or a barrister?
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Yeah, different in the UK though
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In the USA I thought a practising lawyer was an attorney and is permitted to perform either the functions of a solicitor or a barrister?
Ashley claimed to be a defence attorney but is British and has never been to the USA.
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Ah Ok, I thought you had taken the bar in some state in America Ashley but that may of just been me presuming you had.
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Ah Ok, I thought you had taken the bar in some state in America Ashley but that may of just been me presuming you had.
No there's different terms for different countries but they all essentially mean the same thing. It's confusing, even I haven't got to grips with it all yet.
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It's not confusing at all.
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Well, lucky you
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Oh yeah, thanks. The more I studied the luckier I got.
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Like Billy Zane in Titanic, Livia makes her own luck.

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The lawyer / dubious lawyer catfight in this thread is awesome by the way.

More catfish than cat fight.
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I was exaggerating & you are twisting my words / forcing a reaction out of me.
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I was exaggerating & you are twisting my words / forcing a reaction out of me.
I'm not twisting your words at all, that's exactly what you said I was just trying to have a discussion with you about it :/
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I'm not twisting your words at all, that's exactly what you said I was just trying to have a discussion with you about it :/
I've never mentioned first degree murder though? :/
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