[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Women generally are more vulnerable to attack than men, the statistics show that. And while men are robbed and raped, it's usually women and in a lot of cases, had the woman taken more care of her own personal safety, ie, not been drunk and incapable, it might have turned out differently. Rape is a dreadful, disgusting crime and there are some horrible people in the world... so look after yourself and if you MUST get paralytic, make sure you're with some trustworthy mates.

What do you suggest? Chaperones.. 2 drink maximum.. anti spiking spray ( not sure if exists) .. chastity belts..tasers..burqas?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What do you suggest? Chaperones.. 2 drink maximum.. anti spiking spray ( not sure if exists) .. chastity belts..tasers..burqas?

I'd suggest not walking around alone at night especially when drunk - however, that's good advice for anyone, especially young / Uni age people. Lone young men are actually more likely to be "opportunity" mugged for things like wallets and smartphones than girls. There are plenty of rough guys around, not actually specifically out to rob people, who will chance their luck at grabbing an iPhone from a lone teenage lad but would find it unthinkable to attack a female.

I think there's a tendency to have the snap judgement of "oh no victim blaming!" when suggesting that people can do things to minimise risk... But it's really not that at all. It's not about saying it's anyone's fault, or that any attacker isn't abhorrent scum... It's just about accepting that these people DO exist, there ARE risks on a night out, and there simply always will be.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'd suggest not walking around alone at night especially when drunk - however, that's good advice for anyone, especially young / Uni age people. Lone young men are actually more likely to be "opportunity" mugged for things like wallets and smartphones than girls. There are plenty of rough guys around, not actually specifically out to rob people, who will chance their luck at grabbing an iPhone from a lone teenage lad but would find it unthinkable to attack a female.

I think there's a tendency to have the snap judgement of "oh no victim blaming!" when suggesting that people can do things to minimise risk... But it's really not that at all. It's not about saying it's anyone's fault, or that any attacker isn't abhorrent scum... It's just about accepting that these people DO exist, there ARE risks on a night out, and there simply always will be.

There appears to be the presumption that all victims are wandering around waiting to be raped...
Heard of a roofie?
Read all the leading questions asked of the victim in her letter? No let's not make snap judgements.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There appears to be the presumption that all victims are wandering around waiting to be raped...
Heard of a roofie?
Read all the leading questions asked of the victim in her letter? No let's not make snap judgements.

No one is saying it would never happen, it's not about making snap judgements either, it's not about judgement at all... It's about taking precautions to reduce risk. Same as safety features in cars... Power steering, ABS, etc... They reduce the risk of anything bad happening, but bad things will still happen despite that. That doesn't mean you should just remove all of those safety features.

E.g. With being drugged - it's much less likely to end badly if people stay with friends and look out for each other. Not impossible, people lose track of each other, people are attacked by those who were the very ones they were trusting, etc, but it still makes it less likely and so is still good advice. No blaming, no judgement, just an effort for everyone to be safer.

[Wizard.]

So now it's come out that he may only serve 3/6 months AND he's been placed into a protection unit of the prison incase prisoners attack or rape him. But where was the girls protection?

[GiRTh]

Stanford rape case judge removed from new sexual assault case

Not sure about this. Agree the judges sentencing was way to lenient but to recuse judges because of cases they have already tried could be bit of a slippery slope.

[Vicky.]

He got off with a pitiful sentence to start with. But the arrogant twat is apparently appealing even that

http://uk.businessinsider.com/brock-...iction-2017-12
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8090006.html

Doesn't want to be on the sex offenders register. Boo ****ing hoo.

This appeal could mean a decent sentence is finally given. So lets hope eh...

[Vicky.]

Could really do without seeing his smug face all over my ****ing facebook feed again.

This case angers me so much. I almost feel irrational when discussing it. That poor girl. And now hes still ****ing at it as god forbid there are any lasting consequences for him. I genuinely hope he gets the retrial like he wants, and gets a decent judge this time who gives him the sentence he deserved in the first place.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Could really do without seeing his smug face all over my ****ing facebook feed again.

This case angers me so much. I almost feel irrational when discussing it. That poor girl. And now hes still ****ing at it as god forbid there are any lasting consequences for him. I genuinely hope he gets the retrial like he wants, and gets a decent judge this time who gives him the sentence he deserved in the first place.

I second that.

[lewis111]

I could in no way ever have any sort of respect for tbis creature
But I would despise it a little less if he just held his hands up and said "sorry I made an awful mistake" and took that already extremely short sentence he was beyond lucky to be given

But he's constantly trying to make out like he's a victim in this and appealing his case despite what he was given is just infuriating
He clearly has zero respect at all for th girl or her family - not that id expect him to though

[Withano]

Jfc. What is he even thinking. Kinda difficult to believe he's 100% in the head.

[Kizzy]

Let's hope the jury isn't full of '**** happens' people :/