[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

Can we not act that Lotan wasn't misogynistic when he said he'd "destroy" a younger woman "mentally and physically" and asked "what's wrong with women in this house thinking they can challenge me?"

The brew is scalding

[Time]

He got what he deserved and the right person won. Arrogant prick.

[Jason.]

Gutter trash.

[Ant.]

The only comment I think you're referring to is "if you're allergic to bull**** you'd be dead"... because he speaks bull****.

[girlfighter1992]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

At the start of the season Lotan had a lot of sense and was often the voice of reason. He became respected and the alpha male because he had good advice [kinda similar to Deborah as a female figure later on in the season]. He was also an entertaining character. I admit I didn't like how he treated Izzy and he got a bit cocky [but as did Chanelle when popularity hit her, so its not much different].

As an actual Housemate though he was largely responsible for one of the best weeks of big brother, and like Isabelle helped cement a divide and caused a really interesting week of big brother. The divide was so interesting to watch I thought, and as soon as Lotan left possibly the most boring week of big brother occured and the highlights typically existed. The following week was then just Smellie. As a housemate he is very much underated, as a person however I didn't really like him, but hes really not as bad as people say. Everyone has been aggressive in that house, and he also made Isabelle really likable, and was responsible for a really interesting voting divide even with the british public [Pro Isabelle or Pro Lotan/Anti Isabelle - which was interesting to watch]

Totally agree with you the series lost something for me when he and Rebecca were eliminated and sorry but if it wasn't for Lotan Isabelle wouldn't have won

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by girlfighter1992

Totally agree with you the series lost something for me when he and Rebecca were eliminated and sorry but if it wasn't for Lotan Isabelle wouldn't have won

Isy won because of her selfless acts. Nothing to do with Lotan.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by girlfighter1992

Totally agree with you the series lost something for me when he and Rebecca were eliminated and sorry but if it wasn't for Lotan Isabelle wouldn't have won

Rubbish! Isabelle won because she is a decent, honest, kind-hearted, likeable and genuine personality, who had the courage to stand up for herself against someone who was cruelly targeting her.

Lotan can not be credited with her success.

She won despite him, not because of him.

[ClaireS92]

He was a Mysogynyst deserved what he got . So was Joe .Why he lasted so long Ill never know. One Jim Davidson was even voted Winner once which makes the mind boggle when most of the viewers are Female .

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by ClaireS92

He was a Mysogynyst deserved what he got . So was Joe .Why he lasted so long Ill never know. One Jim Davidson was even voted Winner once which makes the mind boggle when most of the viewers are Female .

Jim Davidson was a great winner.Is Misogynist the word of the month or something ? Christ any guy who has words with a woman is now a misogynist,please don't make me laugh.

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Jim Davidson was a great winner.Is Misogynist the word of the month or something ? Christ any guy who has words with a woman is now a misogynist,please don't make me laugh.

Do you think if we chucked the word "misandrist" around a few times at women like Chanelle, it'll stick? Let's have a try, shall we?

[lime]

I think it;s gas that Lotan fans don't acknowledge he's a bully when even his own mates in the house said it

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by lime

I think it;s gas that Lotan fans don't acknowledge he's a bully when even his own mates in the house said it

Nobody in that house has any true friends, not when there's a big pot of gold at the end of it.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Nancy.

Nobody in that house has any true friends, not when there's a big pot of gold at the end of it.

Sure they are not his true mates...It's the BB house ...those he was closet to in there said he bullied Izzy

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by lime

I think it;s gas that Lotan fans don't acknowledge he's a bully when even his own mates in the house said it

He wasn't a bully at all ,he was oversensitive about his private life , nothing wrong with that . He was probably not in a good place with his partner or not seeing his child so anything said like Isabelle said would be heightened, so he overreacted but he wasn't a bully and that is not why he went.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

He wasn't a bully at all ,he was oversensitive about his private life , nothing wrong with that . He was probably not in a good place with his partner or not seeing his child so anything said like Isabelle said would be heightened, so he overreacted but he wasn't a bully and that is not why he went.

Oversensitve ...really is that the excuse we are going to bullies these day's???


Do you remember when he told his mates to ghost Issy....long before she mentioed his son

[DanielM787]

No wonder, for being a vile person

[JerseyWins]

Nah not underrated but far from the worst. He wasn't exactly entertaining or a likable person though.

However, to be fair the season was a lot better while he was in there and I'm not sure why because again he wasn't very entertaining and actually strived to be the voice of reason and to prevent drama/entertainment, etc.

[Daniel-X]

[DouglasS]

To be fair Isabelle didn't even mention his son, she said 'role model to you son though', as in how is Lotan's behaviour being a role model, which was a fair statement after rewaching the episodes, and yes Lotan did over react just by hearing 'son', he was drunk and didn't actually hear. She was ganged up on, which is why the british publicc voted to keep her in. It wasn't just Lotan however, Ellie, Savannah and Tom were not much better either after watching the episodes again. I don't think I could ever agree with a housemate that is telling other housemates to completely ignore one individual, especially if that individual is new to the house and has little friends, that in itself is cruel, as she hadn't even mentioned his son yet, and I completely agree that was harsh, and I'm sure Lotan fans agree that he was cruel at times, but he became a paranoid mess by the end. Lotan was still a good housemate however, maybe not a great person but a good housemate.

Isabelle won in the end, so it's in a way karma for him not being very nice to her for almost no reason, but I'm glad he was there because he caused a lot of entertainment and tension. He's still getting tonnes of hate on twitter months after, all his top comments are hate, which the series is over now its a bit ott.

[Paula D]

What shocks me most about all this is that's it's WOMEN who are defending his behaviour.

Really? So blinded by a good body that it doesn't matter what way he's treats women?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Paula D

What shocks me most about all this is that's it's WOMEN who are defending his behaviour.

Really? So blinded by a good body that it doesn't matter what way he's treats women?

Well imo Keiran was far more 'hot' than Lotan,but fine keep using those sweeping statements,men and women are supposed to be equal are they not ? No one is defending his behaviour unlike people who defend others of a similar ilk. I understand why he reacted like he did,that is not defense,it's understanding human emotions.

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well imo Keiran was far more 'hot' than Lotan,but fine keep using those sweeping statements,men and women are supposed to be equal are they not ? No one is defending his behaviour unlike people who defend others of a similar ilk. I understand why he reacted like he did,that is not defense,it's understanding human emotions.

So quite apart from the incident that got him thrown out do you understand why he spoke to a young girl like she was a piece of ****?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Paula D

So quite apart from the incident that got him thrown out do you understand why he spoke to a young girl like she was a piece of ****?

It wasn't just that incident that got him thrown out,he was also wanting to leave plus had been in hospital so it was a combination of things, he spoke to her as she spoke to him clearly calling him a twunt at one point,just two adults that didn't get on,hardly the wife beater people like to depict.

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It wasn't just that incident that got him thrown out,he was also wanting to leave plus had been in hospital so it was a combination of things, he spoke to her as she spoke to him clearly calling him a twunt at one point,just two adults that didn't get on,hardly the wife beater people like to depict.

Carry on so, you obviously know different adults than I do because I don't know any gentleman that would speak to a young girl like he did. Any son of mine that told a girl to shush would be getting a swift slap. She was never rude to him, purely pointed out when he was wrong which he couldn't stand.

[Littlegreen]

Isabelle was just the catalyst for him exploding, we had seen glimpses of what was coming before fight night.

His tantrum when breaking out the fire exit, for example.