[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Just found this but it isn’t conclusive one way or another sadly




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Tbf if Cameron truly deserves the belts she'd win the rematch as well.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf if Cameron truly deserves the belts she'd win the rematch as well.

The difference is that Cameron wants to move down to Taylor’s weight class and compete for Taylor’s belts ..

Is Taylor brave enough to risk fighting for her own belts

It was much easier to have the excuse of “well I moved up a weight” and not have to worry about losing her belts ..


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[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Zizu

The difference is that Cameron wants to move down to Taylor’s weight class and compete for Taylor’s belts ..

Is Taylor brave enough to risk fighting for her own belts

It was much easier to have the excuse of “well I moved up a weight” and not have to worry about losing her belts ..


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An expert on the women boxers that you have no interest in all of a sudden

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

An expert on the women boxers that you have no interest in all of a sudden

I have a already explained that I got lured in to the bout as it was so heavily advertised..

Guess they all expected Taylor to win either convincingly or with a bit of help from the scorecards..

As you said I haven’t been too interested in women’s boxing and so I was amazed to learn that Taylor has been on the right side of a couple of dubious decisions of late .. but because of the Josh Taylor v Catterall debacle and subsequent investigations this time the scorecards were absolutely spot on ..

Just a shame the same can’t be said for the Loma who was robbed in his fight with Haney ..


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[Zizu]

Phew ..

Fast forward to about 3 minutes ..

https://youtu.be/BsvU-QS0vQ0


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[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Phew ..

Fast forward to about 3 minutes ..

https://youtu.be/BsvU-QS0vQ0


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Fair enough, again though that was her choice, no one forced her to sign that deal

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Fair enough, again though that was her choice, no one forced her to sign that deal

She wanted to get some recognition or notoriety plus a decent pay day for once

So she was basically anonymous despite having the same belts as Taylor but at a higher weight class


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[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Zizu

She wanted to get some recognition or notoriety plus a decent pay day for once

So she was basically anonymous despite having the same belts as Taylor but at a higher weight class


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So she got a good deal then, hardly Katie's fault that she was the bigger draw

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So she got a good deal then, hardly Katie's fault that she was the bigger draw

Life isn’t fair I guess


Bit like Tank Davis weight draining Ryan Garcia then also inserting a rehydration clause then having the weigh-in late in the day so Garcia didn’t have enough time to recover properly..

All because Davis held all the cards


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[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Phew ..

Fast forward to about 3 minutes ..

https://youtu.be/BsvU-QS0vQ0

No Wonder she won
Great mind set.

[ChristmasNeeve]

That just says Katie has a rematch clause though, we know that

[In the Drunk Tank]

I didn't watch but there was a lot of coverage of this in our sports news and I'm happy for Chantelle Cameron. I read this was the first big fight in Ireland since a load of trouble at a fight in 2016 which is pretty mad

Was it a good experience/atmosphere despite the result Niamh?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I didn't watch but there was a lot of coverage of this in our sports news and I'm happy for Chantelle Cameron. I read this was the first big fight in Ireland since a load of trouble at a fight in 2016 which is pretty mad

Was it a good experience/atmosphere despite the result Niamh?

It was amazing, the stadium was electric and people were in good spirits eventhough Katie lost

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It was amazing, the stadium was electric and people were in good spirits eventhough Katie lost

Never mind all that, how much was a pint?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Alf

Never mind all that, how much was a pint?

€7.60 - robbery

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

€7.60 - robbery

pretty cheap tbf it would probably be at least a tenner at Wembley

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

€7.60 - robbery

They should be arrested for that. Pure criminals.

[Alf]

I bet those people serving that pint at 7 euros and 60, were not far off making 7 euros and 60 for an hours work. And I bet they sold hundreds of pints an hour. I bet the servers were mainly foreign speaking, being taken advantage of?

Cheap labour while ripping off the public.

People need to take back control by boycotting these events until they become human friendly.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Alf

I bet those people serving that pint at 7 euros and 60, were not far off making 7 euros and 60 for an hours work. And I bet they sold hundreds of pints an hour. I bet the servers were mainly foreign speaking, being taken advantage of?



Cheap labour while ripping off the public.



People need to take back control by boycotting these events until they become human friendly.

Tbf, everyone who served me was Irish and there's a minimum wage of €11.30 here

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Tbf, everyone who served me was Irish and there's a minimum wage of €11.30 here

Well that's rare, because whenever I go to events at arean's or stadiums, even at my local Rugby team, the barstaff are always foreign speaking or young student types. I'd wager that they're all earning peanuts while the arenas are ripping off the public and raking it in.

[Alf]

Did you get searched on entry Niamh?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Alf

Did you get searched on entry Niamh?

You have to go through one of those metal detecter things like they have at airport and the also had an x Ray machine thingy that you had to put bags or jackets etc through (eventhough they had sent out an email saying no bags of any size allowed in) so no I didn't get searched but had to go through that

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You have to go through one of those metal detecter things like they have at airport and the also had an x Ray machine thingy that you had to put bags or jackets etc through (eventhough they had sent out an email saying no bags of any size allowed in) so no I didn't get searched but had to go through that

That is great
I prefer that

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I have a already explained that I got lured in to the bout as it was so heavily advertised..

Guess they all expected Taylor to win either convincingly or with a bit of help from the scorecards..

As you said I haven’t been too interested in women’s boxing and so I was amazed to learn that Taylor has been on the right side of a couple of dubious decisions of late .. but because of the Josh Taylor v Catterall debacle and subsequent investigations this time the scorecards were absolutely spot on ..

Just a shame the same can’t be said for the Loma who was robbed in his fight with Haney ..


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You weren't interested in women's boxing but you've taken a dislike to Katie so decided to look for negative press about her, there's plenty of positive press about her but you're not interested in that for some reason. So lets talk about those couple of "dubious decisions", shall we? Have you watched those fights for yourself by the way before you decided she definitely lost those fights? because I have. So the first one was against Delfine Persoon, it was a close fight, Delfine is a brawler, totally different fighter to Katie, Katie won on points, it was a very close fight, some people thought Delfine should have won and some didn't, regardless what did Katie do when people said she should have lost? Did she shy away? Nope, she gave her the rematch and she beat her again (and Delfine herself in her post fight interview said she knew Katie had beaten her) the second fight that people say was a controversial win was against Amanda Serrano (again I don't know if you watched that fight but to say that was a robbery is just plain wrong, was it close? yes but Katie won more rounds) So did Katie run away from fighting Amanda again? Nope in fact she was supposed to have been Katies opponent instead of Chantelle in Dublin but she didn't take it.

What I don't like is this implication you're making that Katie isn't an honourable person and takes easy fights or runs from challenges which is just not true, Saturday was her very first time fighting in Ireland since she turned professional, it was massive deal for her, she could have taken an easier fight to make sure she won in front of a home crowd but she didn't, she lost fair and square but you're still making a deal about her for whatever reason. Katie Taylor has done so much for women's boxing (maybe that's why you don't like her) She was instrumental in getting women's boxing legalised in Ireland and getting it into the Olympics, she's an Olympic Gold winner and every opponent she's fought states how grateful they are to her for her part in pushing forward women's boxing and how much they respect her. She's an inoffensive, respectful and humble person.

Oh and also, Katie herself was on the receiving end of a dubious decision in the Olympics, that was a proper dubious decision, that time when all the Russians mysteriously won their fights- see also Michael Conlon from the same Olympics

Originally Posted by arista

That is great
I prefer that

Yeah, it was better actually not to be dragging a bag around

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You weren't interested in women's boxing but you've taken a dislike to Katie so decided to look for negative press about her, there's plenty of positive press about her but you're not interested in that for some reason. So lets talk about those couple of "dubious decisions", shall we? Have you watched those fights for yourself by the way before you decided she definitely lost those fights? because I have. So the first one was against Delfine Persoon, it was a close fight, Delfine is a brawler, totally different fighter to Katie, Katie won on points, it was a very close fight, some people thought Delfine should have won and some didn't, regardless what did Katie do when people said she should have lost? Did she shy away? Nope, she gave her the rematch and she beat her again (and Delfine herself in her post fight interview said she knew Katie had beaten her) the second fight that people say was a controversial win was against Amanda Serrano (again I don't know if you watched that fight but to say that was a robbery is just plain wrong, was it close? yes but Katie won more rounds) So did Katie run away from fighting Amanda again? Nope in fact she was supposed to have been Katies opponent instead of Chantelle in Dublin but she didn't take it.

What I don't like is this implication you're making that Katie isn't an honourable person and takes easy fights or runs from challenges which is just not true, Saturday was her very first time fighting in Ireland since she turned professional, it was massive deal for her, she could have taken an easier fight to make sure she won in front of a home crowd but she didn't, she lost fair and square but you're still making a deal about her for whatever reason. Katie Taylor has done so much for women's boxing (maybe that's why you don't like her) She was instrumental in getting women's boxing legalised in Ireland and getting it into the Olympics, she's an Olympic Gold winner and every opponent she's fought states how grateful they are to her for her part in pushing forward women's boxing and how much they respect her. She's an inoffensive, respectful and humble person.

Oh and also, Katie herself was on the receiving end of a dubious decision in the Olympics, that was a proper dubious decision, that time when all the Russians mysteriously won their fights- see also Michael Conlon from the same Olympics

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The Olympic decision was before she became the women’s boxing cash cow ..


Maybe you are being a tad defensive / over protective .. I’ve explained my reasoning in great detail.

You were doubting that she was the only one with a rematch clause until I searched out the flamin’ video as proof ..

There is plenty of info as regards her dodgy scorecards online but I’m not gonna waste any more time on it .

I was happy to leave this matter alone but a couple of you prodded me .. with smart ** comments ..

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