[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…that’s one heck of a joining of dots to females choosing to be Darts Walk on Girls to being a gateway leading to Andrew Tate and being ‘pimped out’….

No it isn't, it's an extreme version of EXACTLY the same mindset, and a normalisation of that mindset that excuses misogyny "lite". There is precisely nothing "empowering" about anyone selling this, in either form.

[Beso]

Sorry charlotte, you will have to starve because SB fi ds you too sexy and thinks everyone else who does wont be able to control themselves the way he does..

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Beso

Sorry charlotte, you will have to starve because SB fi ds you too sexy and thinks everyone else who does wont be able to control themselves the way he does..

Absolutely nothing to do with people being able to control themselves or otherwise.

1) Why are they there.

2) Who is it for.

You still haven't answered these very simple questions Parmy, I wonder why not?

[Beso]

I did answer..I said they are there for the sponsors, but after reading ammis post, they are also there for themselves.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Beso

I did answer..I said they are there for the sponsors, but after reading ammis post, they are also there for themselves.

How does them being there benefit the sponsors?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

How does them being there benefit the sponsors?

Let me ask you a question first.

Do you find the ladies sexy?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

How does them being there benefit the sponsors?

I will agree with you on this part.

[bots]

will the women be dressed up like they are working at hooters or will they be dressed like traditional presenters

[Beso]

Mustn't answer questions!

[Beso]

Do we have the demographic age ranges of people who commit the really bad perverted stuff like rapes and indecent assaults..cause I'm sure as **** it ain't the old beer swilling gammony fat old men over 55 committing those perversion.

[bots]

In fairness to QB, he has consistently held that view for years, so, agree with him or not, it's not just applicable to Dart assistants

[Livia]

It's as ridiculous as having some twenty year old boys in Speedos walking the women dart players onto the stage. Gratuitous objectification.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's as ridiculous as having some twenty year old boys in Speedos walking the women dart players onto the stage. Gratuitous objectification.

If guys want to do that and the women's Darts were open to the idea, then why not?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

If guys want to do that and the women's Darts were open to the idea, then why not?

Because it gives the mistaken impression that people who look a certain way and dress in tight, skimpy clothes can be objectified because of the way they look. I would be horrified to see my daughter when she grows up, leered at by old men with a pint in their hand. To me, it's no different to a men following a young woman down the street, commenting and wolf whistling. Women are accomplished and multi-faceted, they're not here solely for the gratification of men.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

Because it gives the mistaken impression that people who look a certain way and dress in tight, skimpy clothes can be objectified because of the way they look. I would be horrified to see my daughter when she grows up, leered at by old men with a pint in their hand. To me, it's no different to a men following a young woman down the street, commenting and wolf whistling. Women are accomplished and multi-faceted, they're not here solely for the gratification of men.

Two completely different things surely walking down the street minding your own business and putting yourself in a situation where you are paid to do so? That said Darts currently have pom pom girls who dance on the stage as the players are walking on, no one pays them any attention, the audience are focussed on the Darts player they are like the warm up act at a gig, practically invisible, we really cant choose how women like to get paid because it doesnt suit us or we wouldnt want family members to do it, I think its as Parm said earlier more of a boost to the betting company who sponsor the event to give them more exposure as Darts audiences dont pay all that money to see women walking around in a dress given they could get much more free on pornhub or whatever, its the same argument as women only watch football to look at muscly men, just inane

Anyhoo I will be buying a blind fold for Mr C and will only remove it when play commences .....

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Two completely different things surely walking down the street minding your own business and putting yourself in a situation where you are paid to do so? That said Darts currently have pom pom girls who dance on the stage as the players are walking on, no one pays them any attention, the audience are focussed on the Darts player they are like the warm up act at a gig, practically invisible, we really cant choose how women like to get paid because it doesnt suit us or we wouldnt want family members to do it, I think its as Parm said earlier more of a boost to the betting company who sponsor the event to give them more exposure as Darts audiences dont pay all that money to see women walking around in a dress given they could get much more free on pornhub or whatever, its the same argument as women only watch football to look at muscly men, just inane

Anyhoo I will be buying a blind fold for Mr C and will only remove it when play commences .....

Men are used to oggling women, whether the woman is paid or not. It sets a norm, I think.

Just let Mr C look at one of them... Tight dress, big bobs, pumped up lips... They all look pretty much the same. And if I want muscley men I'll watch the rugby tyvm....

Nice to see you've not changed your name while I was away... I'm playing a who's who catch up!

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Two completely different things surely walking down the street minding your own business and putting yourself in a situation where you are paid to do so? That said Darts currently have pom pom girls who dance on the stage as the players are walking on, no one pays them any attention, the audience are focussed on the Darts player they are like the warm up act at a gig, practically invisible, we really cant choose how women like to get paid because it doesnt suit us or we wouldnt want family members to do it, I think its as Parm said earlier more of a boost to the betting company who sponsor the event to give them more exposure as Darts audiences dont pay all that money to see women walking around in a dress given they could get much more free on pornhub or whatever, its the same argument as women only watch football to look at muscly men, just inane

Anyhoo I will be buying a blind fold for Mr C and will only remove it when play commences .....

I agree with most of this post.

The only part that I don't agree with, is I think that the Darts want the walk on girls back for "eye candy" reasons, and personally I don't see the issue with that reason.

In my personal view whether the Darts wants them or not doesn't affect my personal enjoyment of the Darts (my type tend to mostly be in the Music scene anyway) so I'm not really getting that much gratification out of having walk on girls in Darts personally.

But I also don't get the drama of women (or men if they were to ever do that equivalent) having an extra job opportunity? We're not an Islamic or Evangelical state.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

Because it gives the mistaken impression that people who look a certain way and dress in tight, skimpy clothes can be objectified because of the way they look. I would be horrified to see my daughter when she grows up, leered at by old men with a pint in their hand. To me, it's no different to a men following a young woman down the street, commenting and wolf whistling. Women are accomplished and multi-faceted, they're not here solely for the gratification of men.

I'm talking about the men in speedos.

[Beso]

I remember how popular the chippendales and the dream boys used to be.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Beso

I remember how popular the chippendales and the dream boys used to be.

I think the operative term there is "used to be".

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think the operative term there is "used to be".

Does Chippendales Still Exist Today? Yes, Chippendales very much still exists today. Billed as "a mantastic, sex-god, abs party that will make you lose your damn mind," the Chippendales have a residency at the Rio All-Suite Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Beso

Does Chippendales Still Exist Today? Yes, Chippendales very much still exists today. Billed as "a mantastic, sex-god, abs party that will make you lose your damn mind," the Chippendales have a residency at the Rio All-Suite Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas.

Is a niche male dance group comparable to scantily clad women standing around at sports events? If you want to see male strippers, you can go to see male strippers. If you want to see female strippers, you can go to see female strippers. It's not comparable.

Personally I don't see anything sexy about a bunch of greased up muscle men dancing around in collar and cuffs and little else. And I guarantee they will not cause me to "lose my damn mind". I saw the Dreamboys at an airport once, wandering around in t.shirts with DREAMBOYS emblazoned on them in case anyone missed them. They looked... thick. Just my opinion of course.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Livia

Is a niche male dance group comparable to scantily clad women standing around at sports events? If you want to see male strippers, you can go to see male strippers. If you want to see female strippers, you can go to see female strippers. It's not comparable.

Personally I don't see anything sexy about a bunch of greased up muscle men dancing around in collar and cuffs and little else. And I guarantee they will not cause me to "lose my damn mind". I saw the Dreamboys at an airport once, wandering around in t.shirts with DREAMBOYS emblazoned on them in case anyone missed them. They looked... thick. Just my opinion of course.

But the darts women aren't scantily clad, they have nice dresses on akin to a business meeting attire or something you would see on a saturday evening on strictly..

[Beso]

Brace yourself for an electrifying night of unadulterated pleasure and indulge in the “Dreamboys: Stripped Back” 2024 Worldwide Tour. Be part of our explosive, immersive, and seductive dance show as the Dreamboys take the stage

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Beso

Brace yourself for an electrifying night of unadulterated pleasure and indulge in the “Dreamboys: Stripped Back” 2024 Worldwide Tour. Be part of our explosive, immersive, and seductive dance show as the Dreamboys take the stage

You look like a real fan, Parm.