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Old 03-07-2012, 10:34 AM #1
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I did not intend to be negative about Americans or America. What I did want to say is that the American BB is 'superficial'.

[well, in fairness, many of them are to some degree]

It was Canadian BB i called 'Cheap' and 'American wannabe' (which is worse, a cheap version of a superficial version).

Here is the thing: I believe most Americans would be the first to say BBUSA really IS a superficial (orientated, focused,) version. Americans in the USA would say that.
But I was more critical of the Canadian version(s).
Good word to describe BBUS,the whole show seems to be in the control of the tv station,always gives the impression it's fixed in some way.
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Good word to describe BBUS,the whole show seems to be in the control of the tv station,always gives the impression it's fixed in some way.
It is. Most people don't know that. I may or may not have some good reasons to know this.
Let's just put it this way. American TV geeks my know that American Gameshows eventually became strictly regulated (after a few schemes were caught out).
I think there was a movie about it too. $64,000 question. Basically all games have to register, get audited etc.

BBUSA is classified as a recurring drama. a 'Soap Opera'. It is, technically speaking, a scripted reality show which can be rewritten as it goes along. There is ZERO obligation for them to follow any rules.

Anyways Happy Fourth of July to our American friends.

*and we can all agree Toronto sucks and especially their American Jr universities 'intellectuals'. Booooooooooo

U-S-A...U..S..A... U..S..A... America.. **** ya!
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This is why some Americans believe Canadians are jealous and bitter towards their big brother to the south.
I can assure you, Canada is not Jealous of America lol. We're quite happy here

Truth be told, I think it's the other way around. I can think of a lot of reasons why Americans probably should be jealous of Canada. But, I'd be hard pressed to come up with as many the other way around....

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I can assure you, Canada is not Jealous of America lol. We're quite happy here

Truth be told, I think it's the other way around. I can think of a lot of reasons why Americans probably should be jealous of Canada. But, I'd be hard pressed to come up with as many the other way around....

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Another Matt from Toronto?
Matty, ive been to canada many times and love it and yes you have many things far better than the US. But I did encounter some intelectual wanabee douche bags from Toronto university talking smack about the US for no reason and it seemed they were bitter. Now I am not the average american traveller with the fanny pack, sandals and socks, looking for a McDonalds... I love my country but am very objective about its shortcomings and how awefull some american travellers behave abroad. But there is no need for belittlleling other peoples nationalities, it is uncalled for and sounds like jealousy, if your happy in your place, there is no need to tear somebody elses down.

Surely there must be something positive you can say, I dont thnk its that hard pressed
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Matty, ive been to canada many times and love it and yes you have many things far better than the US. But I did encounter some intelectual wanabee douche bags from Toronto university talking smack about the US for no reason and it seemed they were bitter. Now I am not the average american traveller with the fanny pack, sandals and socks, looking for a McDonalds... I love my country but am very objective about its shortcomings and how awefull some american travellers behave abroad. But there is no need for belittlleling other peoples nationalities, it is uncalled for and sounds like jealousy, if your happy in your place, there is no need to tear somebody elses down.

Surely there must be something positive you can say, I dont thnk its that hard pressed
I've also been to the US many, many times, and we are very similar in a lot of ways. I certainly didn't mean to come across sounding like I was against America or anything of that nature, and I spologize if it appeared as such. Its a beautiful country and I've met a lot of great people there that I'm happy to consider friends. I don't agree with a lot of things that are done there (your foreign policy, health care, gun control, etc), but that's all good, I'm sure people don't agree with a lot of things we do in Canada as well. The people are what matter most, not the elected officials pushing paper at the top.

Sorry to hear about your experience at U of T. That was my school and in many diciplines its regarded as the top educational institution in the country, so hearing these short sighted comments is concering. Are you sure they were U of T students and not just protesters?

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One more thing, you too are American OK, we both inhabit the North American continent so by defenition Canadians are also Americans..
I think you will find that Canadians are North Americans in the sense that Britian is part of Europe. We certainly are not 'American', and we just celebrated our own National Holiday on July 1st, so HAPPY CANADA DAY!!!
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I think you will find that Canadians are North Americans in the sense that Britian is part of Europe. We certainly are not 'American', and we just celebrated our own National Holiday on July 1st, so HAPPY CANADA DAY!!!
You are north american, I am quite educated and know about Canada Day and its history, Ive been there for the celebration as well....Happy Canada Day to you sir.
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Toronto Matt and El Proximo, why "Forget the Americans" and call our TV "Cheap" and the rest of your negative comments. While I agree that the American BB leaves alot to be desired, you dont have to generalize and speak ill. This is why some Americans believe Canadians are jealous and bitter towards their big brother to the south.

One more thing, you too are American OK, we both inhabit the North American continent so by defenition Canadians are also Americans..

Cheers And Happy 4th of July tomorrow!
I am Canadian too, but certainly not American, as the term has been stolen by the USA.


In Quebec we had the French version of BB, called Loft story for many years, not my type of show a bit weird, I can't say why, it was kind of over the top, but it was popular and it kind of evolved into another concept for couple match making, guys living in a house and girls living in a house next door, and the final guy and girl went on a vacation and won one of the houses, it is still an active show, extremely popular and very magazine oriented, weddings and divorce the whole craziness of it. LOL.

Does anyone know when the Canadian BB will be and broadcaster?
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I am Canadian too, but certainly not American, as the term has been stolen by the USA.


In Quebec we had the French version of BB, called Loft story for many years, not my type of show a bit weird, I can't say why, it was kind of over the top, but it was popular and it kind of evolved into another concept for couple match making, guys living in a house and girls living in a house next door, and the final guy and girl went on a vacation and won one of the houses, it is still an active show, extremely popular and very magazine oriented, weddings and divorce the whole craziness of it. LOL.

Does anyone know when the Canadian BB will be and broadcaster?
I get a couple of Canadian TV stations,just hope it's the same format as the BBUK.
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I am Canadian too, but certainly not American, as the term has been stolen by the USA.


In Quebec we had the French version of BB, called Loft story for many years, not my type of show a bit weird, I can't say why, it was kind of over the top, but it was popular and it kind of evolved into another concept for couple match making, guys living in a house and girls living in a house next door, and the final guy and girl went on a vacation and won one of the houses, it is still an active show, extremely popular and very magazine oriented, weddings and divorce the whole craziness of it. LOL.

Does anyone know when the Canadian BB will be and broadcaster?

Sounds campy LOL, have any of the winning couples had children and are still together?

Thanks for the Independance Day cheer, happy 4th to you all. I wish I could go BBQing out on a nice patio deck somewhere... Oh well, Im stuck in Madrid for now
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Sounds campy LOL, have any of the winning couples had children and are still together?

Thanks for the Independance Day cheer, happy 4th to you all. I wish I could go BBQing out on a nice patio deck somewhere... Oh well, Im stuck in Madrid for now
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Canada here.

It was one helluva trick when I had to get live-feeds or even find episodes.

Toronto Matt is right - there are a lot of Canadian viewers. We did not have our *BB and plenty of us also lost interest (or never had) in the superficial American version.

*Trivia: Canada actually did have an original 'BB' which was called 'The Loft' and might have been one of the first ever versions anywhere.
The Loft featured obnoxious disrespectful housemates (loftmates?) probably years ahead of its time.
I think it was canceled after 1 season?

** It turns out Canada is actually getting it's own Big Brother. At first glance it appears to be a cheap American-wannabe version (??) body-shavers and bikini girls playing 'summer pool party'??

(I was living in the UK for BB1 (and some later ones) hence the lifelong addiction).

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Wow I fair few, I thought it'll be more like 3:1 ratio

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I'm amazed by the poll results, quite astounding really I thought it would be about 4:1 British but it appears we are in a minority when you add in the 'other' category.
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Voting out big characters is just as big a problem in the UK as anywhere. The vote to save only really kicks in when it's 3 or more HMs.

I watched one season of the American one and hated the voting structure and NONSTOP noms talk. The whole bloody show was competitions and noms talk. I much prefer UK as it is PERSONALITY based.

I really do wish they posted up a load of rambling chats in the website. If people don't like that sort of thing they wouldn't have to watch it. I would just LOVVVVEEEE to have the option there though!
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Voting out big characters is just as big a problem in the UK as anywhere. The vote to save only really kicks in when it's 3 or more HMs.

I watched one season of the American one and hated the voting structure and NONSTOP noms talk. The whole bloody show was competitions and noms talk. I much prefer UK as it is PERSONALITY based.

I really do wish they posted up a load of rambling chats in the website. If people don't like that sort of thing they wouldn't have to watch it. I would just LOVVVVEEEE to have the option there though!
Yes Yes Yes,my words exactly..
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Yes Yes Yes,my words exactly..
Completely agree, but i like the challenges better in the american version and the power of veto. Maybe the UK version can use a veto vote given to a housemate who wins a competition once a week.
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Completely agree, but i like the challenges better in the american version and the power of veto. Maybe the UK version can use a veto vote given to a housemate who wins a competition once a week.
A great idea,why can't the producers in BBUK come up with ideas like that,you would think,BBUK/BBUS would take the best from both shows to make it better...still love BB though.
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A great idea,why can't the producers in BBUK come up with ideas like that,you would think,BBUK/BBUS would take the best from both shows to make it better...still love BB though.
yes, i guess you and i will have to create the ultimate big brother mixing up the best from both shows

those fools have no idea
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Voting out big characters is just as big a problem in the UK as anywhere. The vote to save only really kicks in when it's 3 or more HMs.

I watched one season of the American one and hated the voting structure and NONSTOP noms talk. The whole bloody show was competitions and noms talk. I much prefer UK as it is PERSONALITY based.

I really do wish they posted up a load of rambling chats in the website. If people don't like that sort of thing they wouldn't have to watch it. I would just LOVVVVEEEE to have the option there though!
I think there was a few clips of that during BB11. like for example some hgs were punished for breaking food restrictions. Like Jeff came out into the backyard and said that he had an extra day of slop for sipping on some Gatorade (something like Luzcozade). Kevin got repremanded for eating 1 grape as well (He got an extra day of slop).

BBUSA isn't afraid of punishments, He just rarely has to.
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BBUSA isn't afraid of punishments, He just rarely has to.
I think you are refering to a different post. I said nothing about punishments
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I think you are refering to a different post. I said nothing about punishments
Oh I was awnsering something in case someone asked if there's punishments on the US version

and if you haven't ever seen BBUSA before (For those who haven't). You'll hardly hear BB talking he only usually talks once a season on the highlight shows. But if you watch the feeds you can hear him all the time. (Mostly it's always commands like Jess, Please come to the DR or Check Your Microphone. But he gives out some random facts if the hgs are bored/ or he wants to add to a convo like last season the hgs were talking about something and BB said "That's what she said" at the perfect time)
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I think there was a few clips of that during BB11. like for example some hgs were punished for breaking food restrictions. Like Jeff came out into the backyard and said that he had an extra day of slop for sipping on some Gatorade (something like Luzcozade). Kevin got repremanded for eating 1 grape as well (He got an extra day of slop).

BBUSA isn't afraid of punishments, He just rarely has to.
I see you are supporting,The Glass House,I have never heard of it,is it any good?
That's the best about BBUS,they can really hand out the punishment, wouldn't it be funny to see some of the BBUK go on the BBUS...can you imagine Becky on slop....
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