[the truth]

Originally Posted by fingers

I thought Sam's reply that his whole rest of time in the house would be ruined if Callum gave, (for Sam), the wrong answer, was very enlightening.

it was....because sam is actually a real human being who hasn't been coached by some money making mook

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Patronise me all you want but ignorance is not an endearing quality.

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Patronise me all you want but ignorance is not an endearing quality.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Patronise me all you want but ignorance is not an endearing quality.

true. that's not to say Id ever mock a person for not knowing something ....but I do not like to see people actually wearing ignorance as a badge of homour

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Patronise me all you want but ignorance is not an endearing quality.

I'm not patronising you, I'm pointing out how it's not possible to get offended by the perceived lack of intelligence of others.
Live and let live

[fingers]

Originally Posted by the truth

it was....because sam is actually a real human being who hasn't been coached by some money making mook

Sam is a real human being with a VERY nasty streak which only comes out occasionally.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Visage

That's how I saw it too.


When she asked who Ghandi was, the twin didn't appear to know as he wasn't quick to explain who Ghandi was.


Or I could simply be reading too much all that.

Well he must have known who Gandhi was considering when he called the other twin Gandhi it made sense to what he was trying to say lol

[the truth]

Originally Posted by fingers

Sam is a real human being with a VERY nasty streak which only comes out occasionally.

he seems like a genuine enough person, though I agree he has got a darker side definitely, I think he can come across as a bit moaney at times too, though I think hes young and still impressionable...he does have a sense of humour though how else would he still like gina after 5 weeks of her insults flying around the house

[Kizzy]

There's two threads on this now?....

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There's two threads on this now?....

lets go for 3 and see if anyone contradicts themsel ves

[Verbal]

FYI knowing who a particular figure is historical or otherwise, is no indication of a person's intelligence whatsoever.

I could list off dozens of footballers from 1985 that not many people could, it means naff all.

Now if you could write an essay in answer to a question such as this:


Who can be described as tallest amongst Mahatma Gandhi Aurobindo Ghosh Swami Vivekanand and Swami Dayanand in Indian history?

now that would be an indication of intelligence.

[Marc]

Who is Gandhi

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm not patronising you, I'm pointing out how it's not possible to get offended by the perceived lack of intelligence of others.
Live and let live

this is nothing to do with intelligence....the criticism is about a person showing off about her own ignorance of the world (probably copying previous dumbos to try and garner votes from the dumb and dumber voters0

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm not patronising you, I'm pointing out how it's not possible to get offended by the perceived lack of intelligence of others.
Live and let live

I'm with you on that Kizzy. Intelligence is no way to judge a person and you are right.

What people can be forgiven for though is taking umbrage about people not knowing the most rudimentary of things about us because it is important. Ghandi is important, Hitler is important even if not for the fact of what he did but at least for the memory of those that died to stop what he almost created.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Marc

Who is Gandhi

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (Hindi: मोहनदास करमचंद गाँधी pronounced [ˈmoːɦənd̪aːs ˈkərəmtʃənd̪ ˈɡaːnd̪ʱi] ( listen); 2 October 1869 – 30 January 1948), commonly known as Mahatma Gandhi (Hindi: महात्मा गाँधी) or Bapu (Father of Nation) (Hindi: बापू), was the preeminent leader of Indian nationalism in British-ruled India. Employing non-violent civil disobedience, Gandhi led India to independence and inspired movements for non-violence, civil rights, and freedom across the world.[2][3]

etc great man!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

I'm with you on that Kizzy. Intelligence is no way to judge a person and you are right.

What people can be forgiven for though is taking umbrage about people not knowing the most rudimentary of things about us because it is important. Ghandi is important, Hitler is important even if not for the fact of what he did but at least for the memory of those that died to stop what he almost created.

To you and most of the world he was important, to sophie he seems not so important....

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Livia

I am not a massive fan of Sophie, and I don't think she's the sharpest pencil in the box... but I think the comment has been purposefully taken out of context. One of the twins called someone "Gandhi"... and Sophie asked "Who's Gandhi...?" questioning who they were referring to, not asking who Gandhi himself was. But I think people probably know that...

Interesting, I didn't really think of that but it's possible

There's also a chance she was more asking "who's Gandhi" more as a way of asking his relevance to the conversation or why Jack was comparing Joe to him, she could have heard the name before but who he was/what he did might have slipped her mind

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

To you and most of the world he was important, to sophie he seems not so important....

Haha that may be.

[BigBuk]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

FYI knowing who a particular figure is historical or otherwise, is no indication of a person's intelligence whatsoever.

Of course it is. It's simple knowledge. I knew who Gandhi was when I was 10. I really dont see how someone can argue with that.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by BigBuk

Of course it is. It's simple knowledge. I knew who Gandhi was when I was 10. I really dont see how someone can argue with that.

Knowing who someone is and knowing what they did are two different things. I know who Marilyn Monroe was, doesnt make me an authority on 1950s cinema.

[BigBuk]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Knowing who someone is and knowing what they did are two different things. I know who Marilyn Monroe was, doesnt make me an authority on 1950s cinema.

You've just proven my point. She claims not to know who he is, let alone know what he had done. I'm not saying you're smart for knowing who Gandhi is, im saying she's stupid as she doesnt know who he is.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by BigBuk

You've just proven my point. She claims not to know who he is, let alone know what he had done. I'm not saying you're smart for knowing who Gandhi is, im saying she's stupid as she doesnt know who he is.

My point, is that the majority of people can say oh yea Gandhi I know of him. But few of those people could explain what he actually did.

Simply knowing somebodys name means nothing.

Hint: I am talking about the people in this thread...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

My point, is that the majority of people can say oh yea Gandhi I know of him. But few of those people could explain what he actually did.

Simply knowing somebodys name means nothing.

Hint: I am talking about the people in this thread...

I agree, some will be lording it feeling all superior and their knowledge will go so far as they saw a poster for a film, or he's the guy in the nappy....

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I agree, some will be lording it feeling all superior and their knowledge will go so far as they saw a poster for a film, or he's the guy in the nappy....

Thank you for grasping my point

[BigBuk]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

My point, is that the majority of people can say oh yea Gandhi I know of him. But few of those people could explain what he actually did.

Simply knowing somebodys name means nothing.

Hint: I am talking about the people in this thread...

I understand what you're saying but even if you dont know what he did you should know his name by the time you're 21 years old. It doesnt really matter anyway as I'm sure she does know who he is and is just trying to act abit dumb, thats just my opinion.