[Glenn.]

Alf is trolling yes?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Imagine being this desperate to make out that a victim of a hate crime is lying based on nothing but your own incorrect assumptions.

The police have confirmed the facts, you can continue to delude yourself into thinking that this didn't happen or that it was set up or whatever you're thinking but that won't change the facts. Accept that you're wrong or continue to look foolish by denying the facts.

You keep saying police have confirmed the fact's, and I keep asking you to prove it to me, yet you don't.

I've never once made out that he's lying, yet you say I have. I'm just talking about.the actual reality of what we know.

You keep making this about me, as though I've done something wrong, but it is you that has jumped to the conclusion of this story, before it's even been concluded.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Alf is trolling yes?

What has your post got to do with this story?

Show me proof that there's no need to question this story.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Alf is trolling yes?

I just can’t picture it though. Other members, maybe, Alf, I very much doubt it...

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

I just can’t picture it though. Other members, maybe, Alf, I very much doubt it...

If you've got nothing to add to this story, then be quiet.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You should probably ask yourself why you are so desperate to try to poke holes in a crime when the police, who know more about this situation than any of us, have already confirmed the details of the attack.

Apparently one of the details they've confirmed is that his sandwich escape unscathed.

[AnnieK]

Alf, had Warren Mitchell been assaulted, hospitalised and obviously traumatised by a pretty awful attack that had racial and sexual undercurrents, would you want actual visual evidence of that attack, or would you sympathise with him??

[Alf]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Alf, had Warren Mitchell been assaulted, hospitalised and obviously traumatised by a pretty awful attack that had racial and sexual undercurrents, would you want actual visual evidence of that attack, or would you sympathise with him??

Is it possible that he got beat up by doing something he wants to keep hidden, and made up this story to cover himself, is that possible?

[Alf]

If you people know the facts, then you should contact the Chicago PD, because they're struggling to solve this.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Alf

Is it possible that he got beat up by doing something he wants to keep hidden, and made up this story to cover himself, is that possible?

Of course its possible. It's not what I asked though.....if it were an actor you were familiar with, liked and respected, would you feel as strongly about the need for proof?

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Alf

Is it possible that he got beat up by doing something he wants to keep hidden, and made up this story to cover himself, is that possible?

Except that the timeline of the trip to the subway checks out with the video feed they have. Is it possible you're grasping at straws?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Mokka

Except that the timeline of the trip to the subway checks out with the video feed they have. Is it possible you're grasping at straws?

Nobody is doubting that he went to subway, In fact we know that he still had his sandwich after the alleged attack.

[SherzyK]

Originally Posted by Alf

Nobody is doubting that he went to subway, In fact we know that he still had his sandwich after the alleged attack.

What satisfaction do you get from trolling?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Of course its possible. It's not what I asked though.....if it were an actor you were familiar with, liked and respected, would you feel as strongly about the need for proof?

Depends on his story.

First we heard from TMZ that the attackers were wearing MAGA caps, then they deleted that part of the story.

It took the guys second statement to the Police to tell them that the attackers shouted "this is MAGA country"

The police have searched through lots of video in a security camera laden part of Downton Chicago, and haven't found any attack.

Two people walking around Downtown Chicago at 2.30 in the morning, on one of the coldest nights recorded, wearing ski masks and carrying a rope and a bottle of bleach, you'd think would stick out like a sore thumb?

[Jordan.]

Guys he kept hold of his sandwich so the hospital confirming he was treated for a fractured rib and bruising are clearly lying

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Guys he kept hold of his sandwich so the hospital confirming he was treated for a fractured rib and bruising are clearly lying

the Sandwich is the iron clad evidence they were waiting for

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Guys he kept hold of his sandwich so the hospital confirming he was treated for a fractured rib and bruising are clearly lying

The question that needs confirming is, how did he get those fractured ribs? The police have found nothing to back his story up.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Alf

The question that needs confirming is, how did he get those fractured ribs? The police have found nothing to back his story up.

Oh idk, maybe because he was beaten up?

Bloody hell Alf, use your brain

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Alf

The question that needs confirming is, how did he get those fractured ribs? The police have found nothing to back his story up.

I mean they already confirmed the rope part and have two suspects so "nothing" are you sure?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I mean they already confirmed the rope part and have two suspects so "nothing" are you sure?

But his sandwich didn't get hurt

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

Oh idk, maybe because he was beaten up?

Bloody hell Alf, use your brain

Yeah you're right, I should use my brain by just shutting it down and accept what he says is the truth. I should know my place and not question anything. right?

[Oliver_W]

To be fair they're only suspects because they were out on the street at the same time, and it was a dark and icy night, can you think of any other ways he could have gotten bruises?

[Liam-]

The sandwich revolted and kicked **** out of him?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

To be fair they're only suspects because they were out on the street at the same time, and it was a dark and icy night, can you think of any other ways he could have gotten bruises?

No! there can be no other way. His story must be believed to be true, evidence or not, and that's the end of it.

[Alf]

And not only did he keep hold of his sandwich while being beat up and got a rope put around neck, but he was also on the phone at the same time, as his manager has claimed to hear the attack over the phone.