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This Labour in-fighting is going to cause an even worst result in 2024. Totally unnecessary suspension.
NewsnightHD bbc2 (29/10/20)
spent the whole Program on Corbyn

The Best bit was the Jewish Fella (who is Pro Corbyn)
getting Very Angry with the BBC Scottish Presenter
at the very end,
Steve Richards also there.

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Get him jailed, him and his far left conspiracy theorists...bunch of crackpots that need sectioned.
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Ehh, Sir Kier had little choice but to suspend Corbyn. He just had to start yapping on about the report is exaggerated etc, not long after Sir Kier had said that no-one in his party was to play it down.
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what i find amusing is the way senior labour mp's are currently squirming trying to back track on statements they made publicly in the past
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Ehh, Sir Kier had little choice but to suspend Corbyn. He just had to start yapping on about the report is exaggerated etc, not long after Sir Kier had said that no-one in his party was to play it down.
That's the only real reason he was suspended.

I welcomed this inquiry, I knew there'd be issues identified, I hoped for less but it concluded more than I myself thought.
I never accepted the Party was institutionally anti-Semitic as media and the Con supporters were portraying it to be.

This report did not find that.
It highlighted however unacceptable and wrong and unlawful discrimination.

You cannot come out and then say, the report was over- exaggerated or wrong in its findings..
As you stated, Starmer made that very point..he had accepted in full the inquiry's findings and committed himself to put in place ALL its recommendations.

It was therefore sad to see Jeremy Corbyn go against that correct acceptance of this inquiry's findings.
By trying to question and dismiss some of the findings in the report too.

It's not, and never would be a good look, to suspend a former leader.
However Jeremy left Starmer with no choice.

We'd have had the media, the Cons and all Jewish groups screaming of lip service only had he not.
Yes, there's the union voice of McCluskey on about losing elections.

What does he think happened in the last one for goodness sake!
He's another dinosaur of politics who only courts controversy.

I make still no apology for supporting Corbyn's policies.
I still think they are needed, likely more than ever after this pandemic too.
With a Country rebuilt on a fairer and more compassionate society hopefully.

I hope Starmer retains much of those policies.
That is what I will judge him on.

The moment sadly, that Jeremy set out to play down this inquiry's findings, he put Starmer into a position of doing nothing or acting to reinforce the right thing to do, in accepting the inquiry's results in full.

Starmer had to suspend once Jeremy refused to retract his comments.

It's time for this Country to get and demand, leaders and former leaders who will just accept they got some things wrong.
They'd gain far more respect in my view, and would warrant same if they did.

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what i find amusing is the way senior labour mp's are currently squirming trying to back track on statements they made publicly in the past
Well maybe in part they said it taking the word of the leadership, as I did.

Before this inquiry.
Which was held to give the facts and truth on it.

Which is now known.
So obviously in light of facts and truth.
There will be an altering of views of statements believed at the time.

It's why I welcomed this inquiry.

Your party may do well too to have a similar inquiry as Baroness Warsi has pretty strong views of what's wrong there too.

Maybe then your Con senior MPs could end up changing their tune too.
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labour may be having a painful time now, but once the recommendations are implemented they can start pointing the finger at other parties who are obviously not innocent. They can use it to their advantage if they are smart about it
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It seems few want to say sorry.
It's not a word the present PM seems to have in his vocabulary either.

However, Corbyn didn't even need to say sorry, although it would have been appropriate after the criticism in this report of the leadership's office.
All he had to say was he accepted the findings of the report .

Rather than question it.
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Can we all take a moment to soak in the hypocrisy?...


The moment of greatest shame in the history of the labour party... Has the Iraq war been forgotten about then? Because I thought having a warmonger for a leader was the worst thing?
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This is bollocks Oliver.
Well sure, maybe a bit.

But blabbing on about "all racism is bad" when the issue is antisemitism is similar to saying "All Lives Matter"
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