[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

...and the same old loop arguments reappear! Fact is white people havent been adversly affected by discrimination and prejudice (being the majority group) in the real world so they are less going to be offended by someone picking on them because of their race. If white people were a minority and people were constantly pointing out their colour it would soon become offensive, believe me!

for some reason the above statement, a simple truth, is one of the hardest things about race that people in the UK can grasp!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

for some reason the above statement, a simple truth, is one of the hardest things about race that people in the UK can grasp!

U mean Cant grasp?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

U mean Cant grasp?

both

some cant crasp the fact and also it is a hard one, it seems, to grasp as in it takes a long time to master

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

...and the same old loop arguments reappear! Fact is white people havent been adversly affected by discrimination and prejudice (being the majority group) in the real world so they are less likely to be offended by someone picking on them because of their race. If white people were a minority and people were constantly pointing out their colour it would soon become offensive, believe me!

I know what your saying Netto but in this case I don't think it should applie as in the same breathe the guy made a similar comment to the white person.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I know what your saying Netto but in this case I don't think it should applie as in the same breathe the guy made a similar comment to the white person.

Probably to cover up his huge gaffe! I dont think he intended to offend but I didnt see the comment...I just dont think its right to think its ok to go round calling people silly names based on the colour of their skin (without challenge) which people seem to think it is. And always comparing it to if someone is picked out cos of their white skin as if its the same when it isnt...I was really commenting on what the TIBB mob have said not the incident itself...breathe lol

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Probably to cover up his huge gaffe! I dont think he intended to offend but I didnt see the comment...I just dont think its right to think its ok to go round calling people silly names based on the colour of their skin (without challenge) which people seem to think it is. And always comparing it to if someone is picked out cos of their white skin as if its the same when it isnt...I was really commenting on what the TIBB mob have said not the incident itself...breathe lol

lol, ok, point taken, I can only speak for myself here, the only time anyone ever commented on my skin colour was years ago when I was living in London. The area where I lived had mostly Indian/Pakistani people living in it and one night when I was walking home from the Tube station, a gang of fellas starting shouting at me to come over, I kept walking and they shouted out "Stupid ****ing White bitch", the stupid ****ing bitch bit bothered me cos I don't think I'm any of those thing but I am white so why would it bother me being called white?

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

lol, ok, point taken, I can only speak for myself here, the only time anyone ever commented on my skin colour was years ago when I was living in London. The area where I lived had mostly Indian/Pakistani people living in it and one night when I was walking home from the Tube station, a gang of fellas starting shouting at me to come over, I kept walking and they shouted out "Stupid ****ing White bitch", the stupid ****ing bitch bit bothered me cos I don't think I'm any of those thing but I am white so why would it bother me being called white?

Yeh but did the "white" bitch bother you really, or was it the fact they were a bunch of nob heads to you?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Yeh but did the "white" bitch bother you really, or was it the fact they were a bunch of nob heads to you?

As I said I am white so, no, being called white didn't bother me , though It was meant like I'm a stupid bitch because I'm white and yeah they definately were a bunch of knob heads!!

[Harry!]

Good program to watch
On Channel 4
How Racist Are You
On soon.

[Vicky.]

Tbh that article is proof(as if we needed any more) or the ridiculously PC world we live in now.

That comment was made about BOTH races, he made the same kind of joke about the white person AT THE SAME TIME. Not as an afterthought to try and sort his 'mistake' out, was in the same sentence for crying out loud.

''Here we have our very own chocolate HobNob and custard cream - Diane Abbott and Michael Portillo.''

Not like he said we have our very own chocolate biscuit...stops to think...Oh, AND custard cream.

Pathetic really that 15 people took time to complain over something so trivial.

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Oh dear what world is it when we cant call a spade a spade?? we cant single out and ridicule people based on their race!?! Its PC gone mad!! (please note the heavy use of sarcasm in this post)

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

...and the same old loop arguments reappear! Fact is white people havent been adversly affected by discrimination and prejudice (being the majority group) in the real world so they are less likely to be offended by someone picking on them because of their race. If white people were a minority and people were constantly pointing out their colour it would soon become offensive, believe me!

The wise one, has spoken again!

[Prole]

I'm sure Diane Abbott wasn't offended any more than Michael Portillo was. It was a light-hearted comment, not meant to be offensive. If it had been meant in an offensive way then it would have been different.

I find that it's mostly left-wing, middle-class, touchy-feely white people who get a bit hysterical and stir up a racial hornets' nests like this.

While we're talking about discrimination, I'd just like to mention the white lower-working class, or "unter-class" as they have been referred to in the press. They have no special funding, They have no 'inclusion centres' or a board set up to ensure they are not disciminated against and they do not benefit from positive discrimination. No one cares whether or not they are "under-represented" in a particular area of industry and the chattering classes do not get outraged on their behalf. And they are the people that the BNP are currently targetting for membership.

[BB_Eye]

Lets not jump to conclusions. The people who complained might very well have been black and who are we to decide what is and isn't offensive unless we genuinely know how it feels?

It's all too telling how affronted many white people feel at the suggestion that anything could be deemed racist or that racism even exists.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by Prole

I'm sure Diane Abbott wasn't offended any more than Michael Portillo was. It was a light-hearted comment, not meant to be offensive. If it had been meant in an offensive way then it would have been different.

I find that it's mostly left-wing, middle-class, touchy-feely white people who get a bit hysterical and stir up a racial hornets' nests like this.

While we're talking about discrimination, I'd just like to mention the white lower-working class, or "unter-class" as they have been referred to in the press. They have no special funding, They have no 'inclusion centres' or a board set up to ensure they are not disciminated against and they do not benefit from positive discrimination. No one cares whether or not they are "under-represented" in a particular area of industry and the chattering classes do not get outraged on their behalf. And they are the people that the BNP are currently targetting for membership.

There are sure start centres in all local deprived areas, inclusion workers in schools/colleges and schemes designed to give people a better start and opportunities (things I never had and some of my family make the cast of Shameless look tame!), I think your right there should be more done but its not like they are overlooked completely and its not like there should be one without the other. This particular incident was a storm in a teacup Im sure but it amazes me how people jump to the conclusion that the world has gone PC mad, its not, and you cant say anything nowadays blah blah blah! A few people complained and its not worth even giving the story the time of day, its bull but the Mail love to pick the few incidents where they can try and prove that we've all gone pc mad!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

The wise one, has spoken again!

I cringe sometimes mate!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ntle-quip.html


fear of blame, fear of blame, fear of blame.

What a strange thread - why would anyone want to call someone that anyway. It is just being provocative.

[Prole]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

Lets not jump to conclusions. The people who complained might very well have been black and who are we to decide what is and isn't offensive unless we genuinely know how it feels?

It's all too telling how affronted many white people feel at the suggestion that anything could be deemed racist or that racism even exists.

Your own particular conclusion is that you know what race I am from my post, and that I have never been disciminated against.

[Jack_]

Um, I think I'm missing the point here.

Calling a black person a chocolate hobnob is exactly the same as calling them black. So i.e racist...am I not right?

[Dr.Gonzo]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Um, I think I'm missing the point here.

Calling a black person a chocolate hobnob is exactly the same as calling them black. So i.e racist...am I not right?

You just called them black.

Can you see it? At the beginning of your post?

Why is calling them black racist? They are black, or a shade or two lighter. I'm a white man. I work with a black man.

In perfect harmony

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo

You just called them black.

Can you see it? At the beginning of your post?

Why is calling them black racist? They are black, or a shade or two lighter. I'm a white man. I work with a black man.

In perfect harmony

Exactely, why is calling a black person black racist??

[Dr.Gonzo]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Exactely, why is calling a black person black racist??

Because people don't think before they type.

[AfroMullet]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

And by the way if someone ever called me that to my face, I would have to open up a can of whoop ass!!

For real.

I dont mind being called a "black man" in an non racist way for thats what i am, but i dont see why my race should define me.

And to the white people sayin there not offended by being called Whitey Etc, its because the history is different, over the years your acestors didnt expirience what ours did, so we have different mentalitys towards it, in my opinion.

[InOne]

Some African tribes sold their own off as slaves.

[AfroMullet]

Yeah the inbuilt greed and selfishness in all of us + Currancey = Disaster.

[InOne]

What is your view on Blacks calling eachother N-i-g-g-e-r?