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Old 29-01-2018, 11:52 AM #1
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That’s is nothing like a dictorership. Literally nothing.

It’s just people saying I don’t want to associate myself with people with very strongly different views than myself.
Err, okay lol. I think you just hung yourself mate.
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That’s is nothing like a dictorership. Literally nothing.

It’s just people saying I don’t want to associate myself with people with very strongly different views than myself.
I do think it's people like yourself that do the gay community a great dis service.Sorry but you are too aggressive and closeminded,you are telling people what they should think and do,it will never work,you are dictating.I wont be responding to you again
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That’s is nothing like a dictorership. Literally nothing.

It’s just people saying I don’t want to associate myself with people with very strongly different views than myself.
I really wish you were born straight I don't want you pretending to speak for a community that you damage by being such an insolent brat
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Shane js a disgrace to them too.
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I get what the OP is saying, I felt kind of disappointed in Amanda for just turning a blind eye, I thought she was better than that.
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look however you say it or phrase it ann is homophobic and voted against lgbt right. if she wasn't homophobic she wouldn't vote against it and someone who is a gay person (or someone who cares about people) being against civil rights is bullcrap and more than an opinion. shane j is right. simple as
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look however you say it or phrase it ann is homophobic and voted against lgbt right. if she wasn't homophobic she wouldn't vote against it and someone who is a gay person (or someone who cares about people) being against civil rights is bullcrap and more than an opinion. shane j is right. simple as
So I'll ask my question again.

What do you want them to do with Ann. We all know how offended everyone is, but how do they want to ease that offence? Hang her? Eject her? Tar and bloody feather her? What?
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So I'll ask my question again.

What do you want them to do with Ann. We all know how offended everyone is, but how do they want to ease that offence? Hang her? Eject her? Tar and bloody feather her? What?
This is what I don't get. Gay marriage is now in so what else do people want.

Do they want Ann nailed to a cross?

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look however you say it or phrase it ann is homophobic and voted against lgbt right. if she wasn't homophobic she wouldn't vote against it and someone who is a gay person (or someone who cares about people) being against civil rights is bullcrap and more than an opinion. shane j is right. simple as

She explained why she voted against it,and it wasn't because she dislikes gay people,do people ever listen.
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She explained why she voted against it,and it wasn't because she dislikes gay people,do people ever listen.
Bigots won't listen to anyone Kaz.

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We are in a democracy. Everyone abides by what the majority decide, but they don't have to agree with it to abide by it.

I honestly think it's an age thing to a large extent. When you are young, you tend to surround yourselves with like minded people. As you get older, you find you have to fit in to the big wide world and become more tolerant of the views and opinions of others, because you have to, if you are not going to end up locked up.
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We are in a democracy. Everyone abides by what the majority decide, but they don't have to agree with it to abide by it.

I honestly think it's an age thing to a large extent. When you are young, you tend to surround yourselves with like minded people. As you get older, you find you have to fit in to the big wide world and become more tolerant of the views and opinions of others, because you have to, if you are not going to end up locked up.


It's hilarious how people are against dictatorships until it's their opinion that they want to be universal
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We are in a democracy. Everyone abides by what the majority decide, but they don't have to agree with it to abide by it.

I honestly think it's an age thing to a large extent. When you are young, you tend to surround yourselves with like minded people. As you get older, you find you have to fit in to the big wide world and become more tolerant of the views and opinions of others, because you have to, if you are not going to end up locked up.
...hmmm I don’t think it’s that, bots...with the like minded and tolerance thing because older people can be very intolerant and fixed in their views as well...But I do agree that maybe age plays a part...I think when you get older, you more live for the moment as it were because you realise your mortality more, so there might not be many moments left for you to live for.....but when you’re younger, well obviously you’re going to live forever...well you know what I mean...so relating that to this, then in this moment of Wayne and Amanda’s lives, they’re able to enjoy their freedoms within sexuality, so they don’t feel inclined to ‘represent’ they just want to go about enjoying those present moments in their lives while they can and are able to, regardless of past things and regardless of any opposition Ann may have had etc..Shane’s perspective is different and as you say, he’s a much younger person...he does feel that representation is essential...why..?...well because despite legislation and laws etc having been passed, there is still in existence, huge intolerances and lack of acceptance of some sexualities, so it is indeed essential...so there is no right or wrong way of it all... but yes, he can only explain his way and his representation etc to them, he can’t force it on them as it be something they should be looking at as well...
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I cannot imagine disowning family for their political views.

Or only having friends who share my political beliefs. Or share the same opinions. So many of my friends are polar opposite on so many topics, but we all seem to get along pretty fine, arguments about views occasionally aside.

A fair few of my friends vote Tory, and actively agree with the Tories stance on cutting away from the disabled constantly. I am disabled myself. This causes some arguments from time to time if they dare bring up the 'loads of fakers' or some such rubbish in my presence but as adults, we are able to set aside our differences and get along despite disagreeing strongly. I am positive that if I had a friend who was an MP who voted for the draconian disability cuts I could still get on with them despite their abhorrent (IMO) views on that topic and how people with their views are directly affecting me right now. I could also, as a woman, be friends with someone who voted against womens rights. I suspect Amanda and Wayne are people quite like me. Who can ignore stuff like that. I get that some people are different and surround themselves solely with totally likeminded people and outcast anyone else...but many are not.
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Well said Vicky. A lot of people I no will vote against allowing abortion in Ireland in the upcoming referendum and that is completely their business.

I wouldn't try to FORCE my views on them and as long as they don't try to FORCE their views on me we'll remain friends for a long time.

It's like Amanda said "Live and let live". Stop making labels.

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I actually think it's a life skill one only gets in life as you get older.

You realise there will be very few people left around you if you only keep the ones who agree with you on everything.

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Amanda is killing Ann softly, and that's a better service to the community than a guy wearing heavy makeup and a wig, exposing himself in public the moment he set foot in Elstree (which to be honest is what's going to be remembered from him after it's all said and done) and calling it the essence of LGBT.

Amanda "the lesbian" is slowly creeping into Ann's heart, and that's a wiser way of doing it AFAIC. She's personifying that big title that is called "gay", while Shane's putting most of his effort in pushing it further into clown zone, being "the odd".
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Amanda is killing Ann softly, and that's a better service to the community than a guy wearing heavy makeup and a wig, exposing himself in public the moment he set foot in Elstree (which to be honest is what's going to be remembered from him after it's all said and done) and calling it the sense of LGBT.

Amanda "the lesbian" is slowly creeping into Ann's heart, and that's a wiser way of doing it AFAIC. She's personifying that big title that is called "gay", while Shane's putting most of his effort in pushing it further into clown zone, being "the odd".
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Amanda is killing Ann softly, and that's a better service to the community than a guy wearing heavy makeup and a wig, exposing himself in public the moment he set foot in Elstree (which to be honest is what's going to be remembered from him after it's all said and done) and calling it the essence of LGBT.

Amanda "the lesbian" is slowly creeping into Ann's heart, and that's a wiser way of doing it AFAIC. She's personifying that big title that is called "gay", while Shane's putting most of his effort in pushing it further into clown zone, being "the odd".
Love this, so true. Amanda is a true LGBT role model, because people love her for being Amanda, her sexuality hasn't been brought up once because it's an insignificant part of her identity as a human being. She's just a pure human being.
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As Wayne and Amanda pointed out Anns views, (plus others she really wasnt the only MP to vote against gay marriage) didnt prevent change, they were both still able to get married and move on with their lives. If they can both move on why cant Shane J and his supporters. Anyway I shall continue to vote the way I always do for CBB, I will judge the housemates on their behaviour whilst in the house, not for what they have done outside the house. Personally I dont like Shane J because of his bitchiness, which has now been directed at Jess as well as Ann. His bromance with Andrew, which made him look like a lap dog. Oh and his taking his clothes every 5 minutes is boring, and unoriginal. In fact he really is just a bog standard housemate, who happens to be gay.
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This is what annoys me, you get a lot of people who only care about Freedom of Speech when it's a one way system. 'Oh, Ann is entitled to her views! Just don't have an opinion that contradicts her or we'll make out that she's being silenced or forced into having another opinion!'

It's a two way ****ing street, if Ann is entitled to her hatred, everyone is entitled to comment on it.
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This is what annoys me, you get a lot of people who only care about Freedom of Speech when it's a one way system. 'Oh, Ann is entitled to her views! Just don't have an opinion that contradicts her or we'll make out that she's being silenced or forced into having another opinion!'

It's a two way ****ing street, if Ann is entitled to her hatred, everyone is entitled to comment on it.
I actually agree with that to a certain degree but Ann doesn't approve of people of the same sex getting married and living they're lives together....probably because she's a catholic and has no life!
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I actually agree with that to a certain degree but Ann doesn't approve of people of the same sex getting married and living they're lives together....probably because she's a catholic and has no life!
what a silly generalisation if you said that about a different religion you would get a label for sure, and your bordering on hate comment is ironic given the amount of hate and pure vitriol that is coming Ann's way
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what a silly generalisation if you said that about a different religion you would get a label for sure, and your bordering on hate comment is ironic given the amount of hate and pure vitriol that is coming Ann's way
He's being hypocritical, he knows it's wrong to be homophobic yet he thinks it's ok to bash religion .
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This is what annoys me, you get a lot of people who only care about Freedom of Speech when it's a one way system. 'Oh, Ann is entitled to her views! Just don't have an opinion that contradicts her or we'll make out that she's being silenced or forced into having another opinion!'

It's a two way ****ing street, if Ann is entitled to her hatred, everyone is entitled to comment on it.
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