[lime]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Oh come on people can have their lives made a misery and treated very differently by some for the examples I gave - what is that if not discrimination.

Women have been discriminated against since time in memorial and still are in some societies. It is institutionalised discrimination worldwide. So therefore women from all races have likely experienced discrimination and many likely still do. Please don’t try to imply I know nothing about discrimination.

Brillo nowhere in my post's did I imply you didn't experience discriminaton...we all have..women and men equally...But If you are a certain colour/ religion you experience it on a daily basis.

I don't think you have that?

We as White South Africans are planing daily how to help our families flee


Talk to me about discrimination when you have to deal with that

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think most people (possibly stupidly) generally expect the actual story to bear some relation to the headline, even if the headline is obviously OTT. No doctor was sacked in this, so unsure why its made out that he was. I fall for this sometimes, have replied to threads with essays only to find out that the actual thread is nothing at all to do with the title/headline

It just goes to show that reading the article is important really, especially in an age where fake news and skewed articles are everywhere.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by lime

Brillo nowhere in my post's did I imply you didn't experience discriminaton...we all have..women and men equally...But If you are a certain colour/ religion you experience it on a daily basis.

I don't think you have that?

We as White South Africans are planing daily how to help our families flee


Talk to me about discrimination when you have to deal with that

I think you have missed my point as I have no doubt that generally women have experienced discrimination considerably more than men and experience it on a daily basis. Most women will have experienced it at some time in their life to varying gegrees. Women of colour and from certain religions have the double-whammy of being discriminated against for sex and race. Given that women of all races make up half the world’s population it seems obvious they are the most discriminated against.

Certain religions and races may experience more discrimination in the West where they are minorities but women everywhere experience it including in the modern world.

I know someone from South Africa who certainly doesn’t have the issues you mention. She lives here but has family in SA and regularly goes back to see them during the holidays.

Obviously I don’t know your personal situation but I do know that due to the sheer numbers of women in the world that makes the discrimination of women more prevalent because it crosses all boundaries including class, race, colour religion - you name it.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It just goes to show that reading the article is important really, especially in an age where fake news and skewed articles are everywhere.

I hate the phrase 'fake news' so ****ing much

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I hate the phrase 'fake news' so ****ing much

Trump ruined it.

Just imagine his voice “Fake noooz”

[Cherie]

Now the title has been amended its clear why he didn’t get the job! You need a bit of empathy at least

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Now the title has been amended its clear why he didn’t get the job! You need a bit of empathy at least

To be a PIP assessor?! Really?! You have to have no conscience, and be as horrendous as possible. I would say much more likely than the gender thing, is that this guy was willing to actually assess disabilities, rather than mark everyone down as 0 points and lie

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

To be a PIP assessor?! Really?! You have to have no conscience, and be as horrendous as possible. I would say much more likely than the gender thing, is that this guy was willing to actually assess disabilities, rather than mark everyone down as 0 points and lie

I dont think they are all the same, some are very good at their job

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I dont think they are all the same, some are very good at their job

It is indeed pot luck but that in itself is a huge problem. No consistency at all.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I think you have missed my point as I have no doubt that generally women have experienced discrimination considerably more than men and experience it on a daily basis. Most women will have experienced it at some time in their life to varying gegrees. Women of colour and from certain religions have the double-whammy of being discriminated against for sex and race. Given that women of all races make up half the world’s population it seems obvious they are the most discriminated against.

Certain religions and races may experience more discrimination in the West where they are minorities but women everywhere experience it including in the modern world.

I know someone from South Africa who certainly doesn’t have the issues you mention. She lives here but has family in SA and regularly goes back to see them during the holidays.

Obviously I don’t know your personal situation but I do know that due to the sheer numbers of women in the world that makes the discrimination of women more prevalent because it crosses all boundaries including class, race, colour religion - you name it.

WTF your post just shocked me about the person yo know in South Africa....


South Africa is burning to th ground right now the rand is foked..they are burning down everything


I'm from KZN a Zulu part of the country



The only safe part of South Africa for whites is considered Cape Town.

Now the Xhosa has issued a warning to us whites to leave or war


That fecker JUJu is having an efffect on many tribes now




Brillo It's not personal issues....It's reality

[Maru]

Originally Posted by lime

WTF your post just shocked me about the person yo know in South Africa....


South Africa is burning to th ground right now the rand is foked..they are burning down everything


I'm from KZN a Zulu part of the country



The only safe part of South Africa for whites is considered Cape Town.

Now the Xhosa has issued a warning to us whites to leave or war


That fecker JUJu is having an efffect on many tribes now




Brillo It's not personal issues....It's reality

I've read about this, but being so far from all that in the US, we don't know what news is "real" and "fake". We don't even get decent coverage of international affairs imo, it's something we have to seek out? Sadly, some things I only learn through SD. Unfortunately, in the news business where victim storylines sell papers, we have to "discriminate" our sources which makes that problem worse... but what I do hear through interviews I've seen of people who have gone there to cover it, it sounds horrible.

I wouldn't even call that "discrimination", lime... I would go a step further and say it is persecution. Discrimination I think can be overcome to a significant degree, especially on a individual-to-individual basis... it can be disspelled... but persecution, that's a whole other story. People will not interact with folk in that category if they feel it endangers their own safety/livelihood/lot in life... so very easy to find themselves backed in a corner, all alone, even not helped by people who love and care for them.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Maru

I've read about this, but being so far from all that in the US, we don't know what news is "real" and "fake". We don't even get decent coverage of international affairs imo, it's something we have to seek out? Sadly, some things I only learn through SD. Unfortunately, in the news business where victim storylines sell papers, we have to "discriminate" our sources which makes that problem worse... but what I do hear through interviews I've seen of people who have gone there to cover it, it sounds horrible.

I wouldn't even call that "discrimination", lime... I would go a step further and say it is persecution. Discrimination I think can be overcome to a significant degree, especially on a individual-to-individual basis... it can be disspelled... but persecution, that's a whole other story. People will not interact with folk in that category if they feel it endangers their own safety/livelihood/lot in life... so very easy to find themselves backed in a corner, all alone, even not helped by people who love and care for them.

Thank you so much Maru for at least seen my post...I think sadly if we call it persecution...we will get the usual..Ye yo white's came over and colonised us....not a word will be mentioned about slavery being long in place before we got there

I can't tell you Maru how many family and friends I have lost post Apartheid..
It really is not fake news and I hope nobody on this forum has to listen to their loved ones crying out for help

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It’s been known for pages now the thread title is wrong, alot of peoole don’t open links or read any posts on the thread so they will react to the title, you can hardly blame them

Exactly my point

[user104658]

There is literally no excuse for running your mouth on a thread without bothering to at least read the OP link first ... And a quick skim of the last ten-or-so posts is usually a good idea too if it's a long thread.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There is literally no excuse for running your mouth on a thread without bothering to at least read the OP link first ... And a quick skim of the last ten-or-so posts is usually a good idea too if it's a long thread.

You are right and I am sorry for playing a massive roll in derailing this thread


I don't think I was running my mouth ...I think I abused this thread as a way to vent

Again all I can is apoligise

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by lime

You are right and I am sorry for playing a massive roll in derailing this thread


I don't think I was running my mouth ...I think I abused this thread as a way to vent

Again all I can is apoligise

Strong emotions and opinions - we all do it Lime.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Strong emotions and opinions - we all do it Lime.

Thank's Brillo
But I shouldn't have used this very valid thread to vent my own anger

Thank's again Brillo

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by lime

You are right and I am sorry for playing a massive roll in derailing this thread


I don't think I was running my mouth ...I think I abused this thread as a way to vent

Again all I can is apoligise

I don't think TS was referring in particularly to you Lime just to anyone responding without reading the link, although tbf to those people you would expect the headline to be relevant


Thank you to the mod who changed the title

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It is indeed pot luck but that in itself is a huge problem. No consistency at all.

I don't think it is to do with consistency, I think it is about a persons ability to do the job as much as anything same as any job, obviously they have been trained to weed out abusers of the system as well, so I suppose if a disability or illness is not obvious or diagnosed, it can be a difficult call

[Beso]

Originally Posted by lime

WTF your post just shocked me about the person yo know in South Africa....


South Africa is burning to th ground right now the rand is foked..they are burning down everything


I'm from KZN a Zulu part of the country



The only safe part of South Africa for whites is considered Cape Town.

Now the Xhosa has issued a warning to us whites to leave or war


That fecker JUJu is having an efffect on many tribes now




Brillo It's not personal issues....It's reality

Swings and roundabouts in s africa..

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by lime

Thank's Brillo
But I shouldn't have used this very valid thread to vent my own anger

Thank's again Brillo

[lime]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Swings and roundabouts in s africa..

Swings and roundabouts is playground behaviour


Being murdered and /or raped because of the colour your skin is totally different



Anyway it would be quite weak of me to apolagise for derailing a thread and then carry on do so

[lime]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't think TS was referring in particularly to you Lime just to anyone responding without reading the link, although tbf to those people you would expect the headline to be relevant


Thank you to the mod who changed the title

I also don't think TS was referring to me alone



But what he said is very true



I Didn't read the link and just went on a rant

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lime

WTF your post just shocked me about the person yo know in South Africa....


South Africa is burning to th ground right now the rand is foked..they are burning down everything


I'm from KZN a Zulu part of the country



The only safe part of South Africa for whites is considered Cape Town.

Now the Xhosa has issued a warning to us whites to leave or war


That fecker JUJu is having an efffect on many tribes now




Brillo It's not personal issues....It's reality

Our accountant at work is SA and she left because it was too dangerous there aswell

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It is indeed pot luck but that in itself is a huge problem. No consistency at all.

It really needs to be overhauled because it's a truly abusive system but what does the government care about some disabled an unhealthy people dying because they were forced to seek work or face losing their benefits when it saves them a bit of money?