[LukeB]

Originally Posted by jet

Huh?

I mean he wouldn’t get the same treatment as Meghan because women and men are treated differently and it’s mostly the women getting all the abuse.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well you can say the same thing about Meghan supporters having toxic hate against her father who we know even less about....

Well that's just it, theres no need for toxic abuse or hate at all, dislike for people in the public eye is fair enough and is understandable but pure hatred is just OTT

[jet]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I mean he wouldn’t get the same treatment as Meghan because women and men are treated differently and it’s mostly the women getting all the abuse.

Imo that's nonsense. People are individuals and their actions matter, not their gender.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by jet

Imo that's nonsense. People are individuals and their actions matter, not their gender.

No it’s not nonsense at all it’s common knowledge. Women get the most of it and the men get little or none. No one is treated equally at all.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

no-one normally has their family relationships plastered all over the press, so I don't think anyone can judge who was right or wrong between Meghan and her father. I'm not actually sure why anyone cares, it's nobody's business but theirs

Completely agree.

Things happen within families.....that no-one actually knows the full extent of unless it directly involves them. I have personal experience of this....my brother and I almost fell out after my mum died over something that happened whilst she was dying that I didn't tell him about to save his feelings but as he didn't know that, my behaviour seemed pretty cold hearted. Once explained it was all sorted but had that been splashed over the papers first, it would have been relationship over for us I'm sure

[jet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

no-one normally has their family relationships plastered all over the press, so I don't think anyone can judge who was right or wrong between Meghan and her father. I'm not actually sure why anyone cares, it's nobody's business but theirs

Then they all need to stop leaking stories about their relationships to the likes of People mag and the Mail - and in Meghan's case stop approving books that tell even more about it.

[thesheriff443]

There is no obsessive hate for Meghan on this forum she has as many people that like her as dislike her.

She has won a court case that involved her father so in my eyes she hasn’t won anything of any real value

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by LukeB

It wasn’t exactly a good comment

Because she isn’t a criminal, she hasn’t done anything wrong and she hasn’t done anything problematic not like you can judge since you wanted trump to free a dangerous criminal. People are offended by anything she does... people even made an issue over the whole ‘husband and I’ thing. It does get toxic here and social media. It’s a fact and not exaggerated

...and it wasnt a bad one either...I even used her favorite word

Why are you talking about Trump on a Meghan post...Josy wont be happy

You dont have to be a criminal to be disliked. IMO she has done things wrong she has been disrespectful and I think she is a hypocrite ...I dont like her and I have yet to find anyone that does apart from on social media. There are many people I dont like...and there will be many you dont like and have a negative opinion on...that doesnt make you toxic unless you call them vile ugly names. People have their reasons for not liking her...just agree to disagree and stop exaggerating and over using the word TOXIC...its childish.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Anyone who I've seen on here talk about her father is always just doing so in response to people saying how awful Meghan is to him

With equally 'Toxic' comments....that was my point.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

With equally 'Toxic' comments....that was my point.

I would disagree with that personally

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

...and it wasnt a bad one either...I even used her favorite word

Why are you talking about Trump on a Meghan post...Josy wont be happy

You dont have to be a criminal to be disliked. IMO she has done things wrong she has been disrespectful and I think she is a hypocrite ...I dont like her and I have yet to find anyone that does apart from on social media. There are many people I dont like...and there will be many you dont like and have a negative opinion on...that doesnt make you toxic unless you call them vile ugly names. People have their reasons for not liking her...just agree to disagree and stop exaggerating and over using the word TOXIC...its childish.

Just saying

She hasn’t though nothing bad to justify OTT hate I do dislike people but you don’t really see me constantly saying anything negative and clutch at straws in every Katie Hopkins and others thread. I hardly say anything at all so no It doesn’t make me toxic. I’m not exaggerating.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by LukeB

yeah I agree with that tbh. It’s just ugly women getting the most of it and the men get’s hardly anything. 2021 and sexism is still a thing

Calling her UGLY is very toxic....talking of men hardly get anything....when LT bought her father into the debate it was all wrong....

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Calling her UGLY is very toxic....talking of men hardly get anything....when LT bought her father into the debate it was all wrong....

I didn’t call anyone ugly and I started off with addressing the father stuff to everyone then you quoted me and I’ve seen you made comments about the father stuff.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

...and it wasnt a bad one either...I even used her favorite word



Why are you talking about Trump on a Meghan post...Josy wont be happy



You dont have to be a criminal to be disliked. IMO she has done things wrong she has been disrespectful and I think she is a hypocrite ...I dont like her and I have yet to find anyone that does apart from on social media. There are many people I dont like...and there will be many you dont like and have a negative opinion on...that doesnt make you toxic unless you call them vile ugly names. People have their reasons for not liking her...just agree to disagree and stop exaggerating and over using the word TOXIC...its childish.

Why wouldnt I be happy? Just because jet posted something doesnt make it true, it was already explained up the page that theres not a problem with threads going in other on topic directions that's the natural way a debate works.

My point was clear in that some people who dislike Meghan were saying things along the lines of 'yeah but what about her dad's privacy' etc instead of actually just agreeing that everyone is entitled to the privacy they request to have and leaving it at that, because seriously who can even honestly think that someone winning a privacy case against a newspaper is in any way a negative thing at all? It's just flaberghasting tbh

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Just saying

She hasn’t though nothing bad to justify OTT hate I do dislike people but you don’t really see me constantly saying anything negative and clutch at straws in every Katie Hopkins and others thread. I hardly say anything at all so no It doesn’t make me toxic. I’m not exaggerating.

There is no hate...there is no toxicity...its just dislike.
Thats up to you if you dont want to discuss Katie Hopkins on every thread...but you can if you want. That doesnt make you any better than me or less toxic.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

There is no hate...there is no toxicity...its just dislike.
Thats up to you if you dont want to discuss Katie Hopkins on every thread...but you can if you want. That doesnt make you any better than me or less toxic.

It would make me toxic though too much hate is toxic and obsessive but I choose not to go down that route. It would help you so much, if you dislike someone that much why would you want them living in your head rent free? it’s so easy to not comment at all and move on it’s very healthy

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Josy

Why wouldnt I be happy? Just because jet posted something doesnt make it true, it was already explained up the page that theres not a problem with threads going in other on topic directions that's the natural way a debate works.

My point was clear in that some people who dislike Meghan were saying things along the lines of 'yeah but what about her dad's privacy' etc instead of actually just agreeing that everyone is entitled to the privacy they request to have and leaving it at that, because seriously who can even honestly think that someone winning a privacy case against a newspaper is in any way a negative thing at all? It's just flaberghasting tbh

Well you contradict yourself there Josy...a debate naturally takes you in different directions which is why her father came into it....I dont know why you would feel flabberghasted ....

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Josy

Why wouldnt I be happy? Just because jet posted something doesnt make it true, it was already explained up the page that theres not a problem with threads going in other on topic directions that's the natural way a debate works.

My point was clear in that some people who dislike Meghan were saying things along the lines of 'yeah but what about her dad's privacy' etc instead of actually just agreeing that everyone is entitled to the privacy they request to have and leaving it at that, because seriously who can even honestly think that someone winning a privacy case against a newspaper is in any way a negative thing at all? It's just flaberghasting tbh

Winning a privacy case against a news paper because you don’t like what was written but happy for your privacy to printed in another magazine because it showed you in a good light is why people don’t applaud her win against a newspaper

It’s not about privacy for Meghan it’s about having control of what is written.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well you contradict yourself there Josy...a debate naturally takes you in different directions which is why her father came into it....I dont know why you would feel flabberghasted ....

I dont contradict myself at all actually, if you go back and read the posts between myself and jet you will see that no one said what you seem to think...

And like I said I'm flabbergasted that anyone could think that an individual winning a privacy case against the newspapers could in any way be spinned to be a negative thing.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Winning a privacy case against a news paper because you don’t like what was written but happy for your privacy to printed in another magazine because it showed you in a good light is why people don’t applaud her win against a newspaper

It’s not about privacy for Meghan it’s about having control of what is written.

That's the way privacy laws work though. She is able to sue the newspapers....as are you if you so wished....to whatever end she likes. I'm sure if something negative and damaging to you was posted on here and you reported it, it would be removed but you would not report a post saying you were amazing and the best member ever. Its human nature not to want to negative attention and the way privacy laws work you can do something about it

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

That's the way privacy laws work though. She is able to sue the newspapers....as are you if you so wished....to whatever end she likes. I'm sure if something negative and damaging to you was posted on here and you reported it, it would be removed but you would not report a post saying you were amazing and the best member ever. Its human nature not to want to negative attention and the way privacy laws work you can do something about it

The privacy involves the same letter in which he friends told the magazine it was a peace offering when in reality it was not.

You can’t have it both ways it’s either private or it’s not

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

He didn’t seem to handle it well...but considering Meghan spewed on about the lack of support and guidance she got ...what guidance and support did he get...NONE.

I was unaware you were such a close personal friend with the royal family and Meghan's dad , what's it like ??. anyone would think you had inside gospel information.

The fact that Meghan's dad showed his true colours in his little cash grab documentary ,speaks volumes that people still blame Meghan .

Him and Meghan's sister both come across very bitter and unhealthy in the way they air their dirty laundry and the way they conduct themselves ,but yeah it's all Meghan's fault as she's the devil oops I forgot .

And as mentioned before this is a private sensitive issue which shouldn't be plastered all over media with twisted narrative . Non of us will ever know the full details , but to me it seems there's resentment and jealousy . And the judgemental unfair treatment of Meghan is just typical .

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Josy

Well that's just it, theres no need for toxic abuse or hate at all, dislike for people in the public eye is fair enough and is understandable but pure hatred is just OTT

Its not OTT though....its just opinion.

There is no toxic abuse or hatred....people really need to get a grip with the dramatics...its laughable.

...and by the way I only used the toxic word as a response to the post..

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

yeah I agree with that tbh. It’s just ugly women getting the most of it and the men get’s hardly anything. 2021 and sexism is still a thing

It’s even worse when the toxicity towards Meghan comes from grown men.

[Tom4784]

At the end of the day, her father sold stories about her, he sold private letters, he tried to profit from his own daughter's wedding. You can't both sides this and make out that people are just as toxic to her father when it's not the case. Her father isn't in the news every other day, there isn't articles slamming him for holding his belly, there certainly wasn't any comparable articles to when the tabloid rags slammed her for saying something like 'My husband and I'. The only times he has been brought up has been a result of his own wrongdoing towards his daughter. He actually did something to deserve the bad press and the criticism while people bend over backwards to find reasons to hate on Meghan, to try to make out that both are similar is just the most disingenuous bull****.

If this was anyone else, no one would be on the father's side, absolutely no one, but because it's a mixed race american woman who had the audacity to marry a prince, people are accepting the gaslighting because they think it gives their irrational, crazy hatred of this woman substance when it does not. It just highlights how far gone people are.

Oh, and since I already know the responses to this post, I'll just tackle the predictable 'Meghan fan' response that gets dished out to anyone that isn't cutting letters out of a magazine to send her death threats. You don't have to be a fan of someone to see how they are treated is bull****, but you do have to hate someone deeply to the point of irrationality to go against the grain of reality to find reasons to justify hating someone like that. As I said before, if this wasn't Meghan, the people who are defending the father would not be doing so because it's clear as day that he's looking to profit off his own daughter. The fact people are saying 'Everyone deserves a right to privacy but....' to try to justify a reason for Meghan's privacy to be invalidated just says it all.

Take a breath, step away from the computer and just look inward. The hatred towards this woman is not normal behaviour.