[InOne]

Originally Posted by angus58

Are we back to the capital punishment argument? I'm talking about the right to defend myself, my family and my property from intruders who have the choice not to break into my home. If the do, then they should be prepared to take the consequences, unless you are suggesting that I should invite them in for a cup of tea and tell them to help themselves?

I'd kill someone who came into my home. Even bury the body.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by InOne

I'd kill someone who came into my home. Even bury the body.

"Even bury the body"!

[InOne]

Originally Posted by angus58

"Even bury the body"!

Well, a body causes drama. No need for that

[Crimson Dynamo]

inone did you enjoy the book American Psycho?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

inone did you enjoy the book American Psycho?

No, I read about real killers not fake new labour ones.

Utter Fact.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by InOne

No, I read about real killers not fake new labour ones.

Utter Fact.

this was written long before new labour. Seriously I think you would like it. seek it out.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

this was written long before new labour. Seriously I think you would like it. seek it out.

Fact is darker than fiction.

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by angus58

Funny how criminals can break the law with impunity, can assault and kill, steal other people's property, burglarise other people's homes, kidnap, rape and abduct children and then when they are caught they are able to invoke THEIR human rights. It is the height of hypocrisy to break the law, then be able to invoke its protection and privileges

As far as I'm concerned all criminals should forfeit any recourse to Human Rights or any other Rights enshrined in Law. A criminal act is, after all, an invasion and abuse of someone else's human rights. Instead of Human Rights legisation we should have a Bill of Rights that gives protection and privileges to the law abiding people of this country, that can only be invoked so long as people adhere to their responsibilities to be good citizens.

Briliant post.......Agree one million percent........My blood boils when I hear someone is worried about the level of force used against a burgler for example.....The minimum force regime is riduculous.......How on earth can one know what a safe minimum force is against a stranger whoe's strenghth and reactions you know nothing about.....Maximum force should allway be allowed no matter what the consequences are to the criminal........And that should apply to criminals escaping from its victim as they should not be allowed to escape and commit the same crime on another victim.......

The death penalty is not about deterent although I believe it is a detertent it is about JUSTICE for the victim and families.......

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by InOne

Fact is darker than fiction.

not in this case


The Bundy case is interesting but so is BTK, what with his religious cover.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

not in this case


The Bundy case is interesting but so is BTK, what with his religious cover.

Was BTK even caught??? Was he the guy who send tapes and letters to the police?

[InOne]

Ahhh remember him now LT, well alot hide behind religion, especially in the days when Sex Killers were all over the place.

[Crimson Dynamo]

BTK caught himself almost, he got bored of not being caught. he was too good for the police. he was evil.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

BTK caught himself almost, he got bored of not being caught. he was too good for the police. he was evil.

Alot are quite intelligent.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by InOne

Alot are quite intelligent.

especially the ones that never get caught..

[InOne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

especially the ones that never get caught..

Like that one in LA I think. Zodiac Killer

[PaulyJ]

Originally Posted by bananarama

The death penalty is not about deterent although I believe it is a detertent it is about JUSTICE for the victim and families.......

There is a certain cruelty inflicted on, say the family of Jamie Bulger, when they hear their sons killer's have been released.

The death penalty would save them from this turture, and this is the only sensible justification i can think of for the death penalty.

If the conviction was truely "Beyond Doubt" then i would support the Death Penalty, but i just don't trust the way in which Human Beings, and therefore Courts, define "Beyond Doubt". The Belief Engine works to fool us all

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13049149/The-Belief-Engine

And once you know about it, and understand it, can you honestly take a persons life, and not feel a killer's guilt.

[Shasown]

I dont use the belief engine, I ask God, if he wont tell me the answer I use my hidden super psychic powers.

And yes I could quite happily execute someone if tasked to. Its a job after all.