[Amy Jade]

Some travellers around here robbed a charity shop too, Livia. Claire House, a charity for dying children.

They were seen parked behind by people in the pubs across the road and they raised the police, the police came over an hour later. Some people from the pub told them who it was and the woman who ran the charity shop had CCTV of them inside the shop but nothing came of it, don't even think it was investigated.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Some travellers around here robbed a charity shop too, Livia. Claire House, a charity for dying children.

They were seen parked behind by people in the pubs across the road and they raised the police, the police came over an hour later. Some people from the pub told them who it was and the woman who ran the charity shop had CCTV of them inside the shop but nothing came of it, don't even think it was investigated.

They all lie for each other. And you know, I'm sure none of us want to tell anyone else how to live their lives, but cruelty to animals, thieving and all the other things they're famous for is totally unacceptable. If they cleaned up their act people wouldn't have such a huge problem with them. And really, stealing from a charity for dying children really is as low as you can go. And then they make a big thing about going to church. Incredible.

[Kazanne]

Oh Jeez,those poor horses must be so scared,Is it against the law there? Looks pretty dangerous for other drivers too

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Oh Jeez,those poor horses must be so scared,Is it against the law there? Looks pretty dangerous for other drivers too

This is what I'm saying, if I went out on one of them, I'd absolutely get arrested and charged........

[Kazanne]

people always seem to want to blame anyone but the criminal,I just don't get it and no good slapping these people on the wrist this is why we are so fcuked up now,human rights abused and used to commit crimes and plead their human right.

[thesheriff443]

Let's be real, animals children and the old are treated the worst in this so called civilised world.

[Beso]

All this not caring about the community etc...

You just have to look at all the garbage strewn up and down the countries roads..or the dog **** you have to dodge to get your morning paper....

Feet high front lawns, broken down viehicles outside folks front doors..etc etc.....

I dont think travellers are to blame for it all.

[jaxie]

I don't really agree that travellers as a group are relevant to this thread or in the stereotypes for them but then I don't live in a community that has had problems from them as a group and this can weight peoples opinion considerably. I don't really blame anyone for that either.

However I do think this particular family are being deliberately provocative. This is more about making a vengeful statement than genuine grieving in my opinion.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I don't really agree that travellers as a group are relevant to this thread or in the stereotypes for them but then I don't live in a community that has had problems from them as a group and this can weight peoples opinion considerably. I don't really blame anyone for that either.

However I do think this particular family are being deliberately provocative. This is more about making a vengeful statement than genuine grieving in my opinion.

I'm inclined to believe this as well tbf

[Tom4784]

Quite a ridiculous case from what I've read so I'm glad he faced no charges for it, it seems a million miles away from that case with the farmer killing the intruders as they ran away.

[arista]

The 78 year old and his ill wife have moved out
under Police advice.
The Evil Criminal who is Dead
has his family and criminal mates keep putting up flowers.

https://news.sky.com/story/memorial-...-time-11326523
So far pulled down the Flowers 4 times

[arista]

[The Met Police has released this image of Hither Green suspect Billy Jeeves]

The Scumbag Criminal Driver has that is still free

[thesheriff443]

People put flowers up at side of the road where people have been killed some from speeding or drunk driving.

Leave them up, be old news next month.

[arista]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

People put flowers up at side of the road where people have been killed some from speeding or drunk driving.

Leave them up, be old news next month.

No a local will not stand for it.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by arista

No a local will not stand for it.

Then make him sit

[Beso]

Originally Posted by arista

No a local will not stand for it.

A vigilante.

[Ammi]

...the police have intervened and made a statement...

"We would urge members of the public to respect the wishes of those who choose to place flowers and other tributes in the area.

"We would also request those placing tributes or visiting the area to behave in a responsible manner so as not to disrupt the local community."


https://news.sky.com/story/police-in...orial-11326935

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...the police have intervened and made a statement...

"We would urge members of the public to respect the wishes of those who choose to place flowers and other tributes in the area.

"We would also request those placing tributes or visiting the area to behave in a responsible manner so as not to disrupt the local community."


https://news.sky.com/story/police-in...orial-11326935

Not a satisfactory response from the police in my opinion. They should not be allowed to put the flowers there as it is innappropriate, intimidating and the fence is private property. The police need to be more forceful on this and ensure they put them somewhere else or start to make arrests for their continued harrassment.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

People put flowers up at side of the road where people have been killed some from speeding or drunk driving.

Leave them up, be old news next month.

That is different though, the driver of a car who hits someone doesn't live on the road side. These people are going to the victims home and sticking flowers up.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

That is different though, the driver of a car who hits someone doesn't live on the road side. These people are going to the victims home and sticking flowers up.

But it's flowers they are leaving not bombs.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

People put flowers up at side of the road where people have been killed some from speeding or drunk driving.

Leave them up, be old news next month.

Flowers left for innocent victims at the scene of an accident is a light-year away from flowers left for a perpetrator at his VICTIMS home.

And in the former, there can be NO doubt that the 'motive' behind leaving the flowers is Love, Sympathy and Remembrance, while, in the case of the latter, the motive behind leaving flowers is highly DUBIOUS.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Flowers left for innocent victims at the scene of an accident is a light-year away from flowers left for a perpetrator at his VICTIMS home.

And in the former, there can be NO doubt that the 'motive' behind leaving the flowers is Love, Sympathy and Remembrance, while, in the case of the latter, the motive behind leaving flowers is highly DUBIOUS.

In this country laying flowers at a scene where people or someone has died in an accident or murder is the normal thing.

This burglary cost him his life and yet this countries justice system let's child killers live luxury.

Bad news travels faster than good news.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

In this country laying flowers at a scene where people or someone has died in an accident or murder is the normal thing.

This burglary cost him his life and yet this countries justice system let's child killers live luxury.

Bad news travels faster than good news.

As Kirk said there are definitely circumstances. Say somebody shot 5 people and then themself I would think it inappropriate to lay flowers for the shooter along with flowers for the innocent victims.

This man is no victim, he was a criminal who preyed on the vulnerable and his death occured as a result of his immoral act at an innocent persons home, his family should not be allowed to go to the house. If they were decent people they would mourn on theirown property not return to the scene where their relative had commited his crimes.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

As Kirk said there are definitely circumstances. Say somebody shot 5 people and then themself I would think it inappropriate to lay flowers for the shooter along with flowers for the innocent victims.

This man is no victim, he was a criminal who preyed on the vulnerable and his death occured as a result of his immoral act at an innocent persons home, his family should not be allowed to go to the house. If they were decent people they would mourn on theirown property not return to the scene where their relative had commited his crimes.

He could be the devil himself, but it's not a crime to lay flowers, regardless of the moral rights and wrongs.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

In this country laying flowers at a scene where people or someone has died in an accident or murder is the normal thing.

This burglary cost him his life and yet this countries justice system let's child killers live luxury.

Bad news travels faster than good news.

The flowers weren't laid where he died. According to media reports he died a few streets away. They weren't laid on the pavement or kerb, they were attached to someones fence.

And seriously? Who went into a pensioners home in the dark with a screwdriver? What do you think he was planning to do with that screwdriver in the dark a bit of D I Y? He planned to use it as a weapon. He came unstuck and it was entirely his own fault.