[Ninastar]

I wonder if he was like undiagnosed schizophrenic or bi polar. I can honestly say that mentally unstable people are absolutely terrifying. You can see it in their eyes when they have a breakdown. It’s surreal

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

I wonder if he was like undiagnosed schizophrenic or bi polar. I can honestly say that mentally unstable people are absolutely terrifying. You can see it in their eyes when they have a breakdown. It’s surreal

Could be
he stopped taking his meds,
this seems to be happening alot.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by arista

Could be
he stopped taking his meds,
this seems to be happening alot.

Oh yeah. That will seriously **** you up. I had to stop taking meds because my insurance ran out (yay America) and it was the worst 2/3 weeks ever. You get so low and your sense of rational thinking goes out the window. Idk how I didn’t lose my job. I was like a zombie

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

I wonder if he was like undiagnosed schizophrenic or bi polar. I can honestly say that mentally unstable people are absolutely terrifying. You can see it in their eyes when they have a breakdown. It’s surreal

…many articles are reporting schizophrenia but it wasn’t undiagnosed…he has apparently diagnosed at 17yrs old and was known to the police authorities…I haven’t personally read anything about him not taking his medication recently but that could be so if it has been reported…

[arista]

7 Down Under Monday Front Pages

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

He is fine ,thankyou Mock.

That's great news to hear, Kazanne.

I hope that the families of the victims are getting the support that they need during this time.

[user104658]

In his father's own words on why he targeted women: "Because he wanted a girlfriend, he had no social skills and he was very frustrated".

So yes of course he was also mentally ill, but this is 100% an incel-motivated attack and I would be very, very surprised if there aren't incel groups and boards in his Internet history.

For me that makes this 100% terrorism. Attacks on women driven by Internet ideologies and indoctrination are terrorism. Pure and simple. As surely as any religion.

[Ninastar]

Yeah, I can agree with that. FBI needs to keep tabs on these kinds of ‘people’

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

In his father's own words on why he targeted women: "Because he wanted a girlfriend, he had no social skills and he was very frustrated".

So yes of course he was also mentally ill, but this is 100% an incel-motivated attack and I would be very, very surprised if there aren't incel groups and boards in his Internet history.

For me that makes this 100% terrorism. Attacks on women driven by Internet ideologies and indoctrination are terrorism. Pure and simple. As surely as any religion.

They just said on LBC the father effectively said "if these women had given him a little sex then this would not have happened"

The lady on now (scouser) called it Mysogenistic Terrorism

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

They just said on LBC the father effectively said "if these women had given him a little sex then this would not have happened"

The lady on now (scouser) called it Mysogenistic Terrorism

She's not wrong.

[Ninastar]

It seems like the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Disgusting attitude

[arista]

The Old Dad of this killer
has spoken on the news

I wish a Reporter asked
if he was the supervisor of his son's medication.


As the Evil Killer
did not take it,

[Crimson Dynamo]

You can become a British citizen and opt out of shaking hands with a woman. Should we really be inviting those opposed to female dignitaries to our shores?



https://x.com/darrengrimes_/status/1779886836103438743

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

In his father's own words on why he targeted women: "Because he wanted a girlfriend, he had no social skills and he was very frustrated".

So yes of course he was also mentally ill, but this is 100% an incel-motivated attack and I would be very, very surprised if there aren't incel groups and boards in his Internet history.

For me that makes this 100% terrorism. Attacks on women driven by Internet ideologies and indoctrination are terrorism. Pure and simple. As surely as any religion.

The BIB sounds like me.

With how many women were victims of this attack we have all got to be a little bit suspicious that it might've been Incel ideology playing a part, at the very least.

[bots]

With someone suffering from mental illness, there is just no point in trying to attach reasoning to it. He probably woke up that morning and thought it was a good idea

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It was a radical Jewish terrorist, named Benjamin Cohen. Apologies to those of you using the murder of innocents to prop up your racism.

"I never falsely suggested anything," Simeon Boikov tells me.

Under the alter ego "Aussie Cossack", he posted untrue speculation that a 20-year-old Jewish university student was the attacker who had stabbed and killed five women and one man at a Westfield shopping centre in Sydney.

He said on X: "Unconfirmed reports identify the Bondi attacker as Benjamin Cohen. Cohen? Really? And to think so many commentators tried to initially blame Muslims."

The actual attacker, shot dead by police, was later identified as Joel Cauchi, 40. The authorities say his actions were most probably related to his mental health.

Within hours of Mr Boikov's post on X, the false claims he amplified had reached hundreds of thousands of people on X and Telegram, and had even been repeated by a national news outlet.

I tracked him down because I want to understand how his posts triggered an online frenzy that reached the mainstream media - with serious consequences for Mr Cohen, who's described his distress at being accused of an attack he had nothing to do with.

Mr Boikov is speaking to me from the Russian consulate in Sydney, to where he fled more than a year ago after a warrant was issued over his arrest for alleged assault. The pro-Kremlin social media personality was granted Russian citizenship by Russian President Vladimir Putin last year - and has requested political asylum in Russia.

He wasn't the first user to mention the name Benjamin Cohen. It appeared to originate on a small account sharing almost exclusively anti-Israel content.

This is one of the ways disinformation now spreads.

Full story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-68822846

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

"I never falsely suggested anything," Simeon Boikov tells me.

Under the alter ego "Aussie Cossack", he posted untrue speculation that a 20-year-old Jewish university student was the attacker who had stabbed and killed five women and one man at a Westfield shopping centre in Sydney.

He said on X: "Unconfirmed reports identify the Bondi attacker as Benjamin Cohen. Cohen? Really? And to think so many commentators tried to initially blame Muslims."

The actual attacker, shot dead by police, was later identified as Joel Cauchi, 40. The authorities say his actions were most probably related to his mental health.

Within hours of Mr Boikov's post on X, the false claims he amplified had reached hundreds of thousands of people on X and Telegram, and had even been repeated by a national news outlet.

I tracked him down because I want to understand how his posts triggered an online frenzy that reached the mainstream media - with serious consequences for Mr Cohen, who's described his distress at being accused of an attack he had nothing to do with.

Mr Boikov is speaking to me from the Russian consulate in Sydney, to where he fled more than a year ago after a warrant was issued over his arrest for alleged assault. The pro-Kremlin social media personality was granted Russian citizenship by Russian President Vladimir Putin last year - and has requested political asylum in Russia.

He wasn't the first user to mention the name Benjamin Cohen. It appeared to originate on a small account sharing almost exclusively anti-Israel content.

This is one of the ways disinformation now spreads.

Full story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-68822846

You literally couldn't make it up

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You can become a British citizen and opt out of shaking hands with a woman. Should we really be inviting those opposed to female dignitaries to our shores?



https://x.com/darrengrimes_/status/1779886836103438743

Utter madness


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Utter madness


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We’re just back from the US and it seemed much easier to get into the UK than the damn States .


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[Ammi]

Originally Posted by MTVN

"I never falsely suggested anything," Simeon Boikov tells me.

Under the alter ego "Aussie Cossack", he posted untrue speculation that a 20-year-old Jewish university student was the attacker who had stabbed and killed five women and one man at a Westfield shopping centre in Sydney.

He said on X: "Unconfirmed reports identify the Bondi attacker as Benjamin Cohen. Cohen? Really? And to think so many commentators tried to initially blame Muslims."

The actual attacker, shot dead by police, was later identified as Joel Cauchi, 40. The authorities say his actions were most probably related to his mental health.

Within hours of Mr Boikov's post on X, the false claims he amplified had reached hundreds of thousands of people on X and Telegram, and had even been repeated by a national news outlet.

I tracked him down because I want to understand how his posts triggered an online frenzy that reached the mainstream media - with serious consequences for Mr Cohen, who's described his distress at being accused of an attack he had nothing to do with.

Mr Boikov is speaking to me from the Russian consulate in Sydney, to where he fled more than a year ago after a warrant was issued over his arrest for alleged assault. The pro-Kremlin social media personality was granted Russian citizenship by Russian President Vladimir Putin last year - and has requested political asylum in Russia.

He wasn't the first user to mention the name Benjamin Cohen. It appeared to originate on a small account sharing almost exclusively anti-Israel content.

This is one of the ways disinformation now spreads.

Full story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-68822846

…..and as the article states, that disinformation is spread in different tangents and directions…which is sadly often the way…I often say that ‘voices get lost…’…and what actually gets lost in it all is the truth…lost in the agenda of political stuff etc…

In parallel, false claims were circulating that the attacker was Muslim. These were shared by prominent journalists and political accounts on X with hundreds of thousands of followers from the UK to the US.
British journalist and presenter Julia Hartley-Brewer suggested the stabbings were "another terror attack by another Islamist terrorist", while TV presenter Rachel Riley said it was part of a "Global Intifada". They both later retracted their posts.
Hartley-Brewer posted that she had been "incorrect" and that the Sydney massacre "was not an Islamist terror attack", while Riley said she was "sorry" if her message had been "misunderstood".
Dozens of accounts on TikTok also spread false claims that the attacker was Muslim. I messaged several of them - but they haven't responded.

…and interestingly, it continues in another direction and another path…


New South Wales Police have suggested the real attacker, Cauchi, deliberately targeted women - who make up five out of six of the victims.
Several online forums dedicated to incels - a subculture who define themselves as unable to get a sexual partner, despite desiring one - have praised Cauchi as one of their own for the attack.
But so far there's no concrete evidence of Cauchi being involved directly with these online movements. When asked why Cauchi could have targeted women, his father said that his son had "wanted a girlfriend" and that had had "no social skills and was frustrated out of his brain".
Increasingly, attacks in the real world are being followed by this kind of social media frenzy - where misinformation is hugely amplified.
For the families and friends of those who have been killed, and the innocent bystanders falsely accused, this toxic rumour-mill is causing serious harm.


….it may indeed be ‘incel idealogy’…but nothing atm has been confirmed and associated as that being so until investigations reveal such…I read that the killer’s parents were ‘estranged’ so even though, his father has intimated certain things…or things he’s said could lead to certain thoughts…atm, it’s essentially all hearsay and surmising in what seems to be a need for labels to be applied…

…anyway, we’ll wait to see what is uncovered and revealed over the coming time…this is why personally I’m so focused on checking out everything that’s posted online atm…

[Crimson Dynamo]

a pro-Kremlin social media personality

now that is a thing!

[Nicky91]

my dad's uncle had lived in the area of that shopping centre

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…..and as the article states, that disinformation is spread in different tangents and directions…which is sadly often the way…I often say that ‘voices get lost…’…and what actually gets lost in it all is the truth…lost in the agenda of political stuff etc…

In parallel, false claims were circulating that the attacker was Muslim. These were shared by prominent journalists and political accounts on X with hundreds of thousands of followers from the UK to the US.
British journalist and presenter Julia Hartley-Brewer suggested the stabbings were "another terror attack by another Islamist terrorist", while TV presenter Rachel Riley said it was part of a "Global Intifada". They both later retracted their posts.
Hartley-Brewer posted that she had been "incorrect" and that the Sydney massacre "was not an Islamist terror attack", while Riley said she was "sorry" if her message had been "misunderstood".
Dozens of accounts on TikTok also spread false claims that the attacker was Muslim. I messaged several of them - but they haven't responded.

…and interestingly, it continues in another direction and another path…


New South Wales Police have suggested the real attacker, Cauchi, deliberately targeted women - who make up five out of six of the victims.
Several online forums dedicated to incels - a subculture who define themselves as unable to get a sexual partner, despite desiring one - have praised Cauchi as one of their own for the attack.
But so far there's no concrete evidence of Cauchi being involved directly with these online movements. When asked why Cauchi could have targeted women, his father said that his son had "wanted a girlfriend" and that had had "no social skills and was frustrated out of his brain".
Increasingly, attacks in the real world are being followed by this kind of social media frenzy - where misinformation is hugely amplified.
For the families and friends of those who have been killed, and the innocent bystanders falsely accused, this toxic rumour-mill is causing serious harm.


….it may indeed be ‘incel idealogy’…but nothing atm has been confirmed and associated as that being so until investigations reveal such…I read that the killer’s parents were ‘estranged’ so even though, his father has intimated certain things…or things he’s said could lead to certain thoughts…atm, it’s essentially all hearsay and surmising in what seems to be a need for labels to be applied…

…anyway, we’ll wait to see what is uncovered and revealed over the coming time…this is why personally I’m so focused on checking out everything that’s posted online atm…

The difference is some poor kid was actually named and his name falsely circulated....there were only 'suggestions' it was an Islamic terror attack, no one was named, and it is only human to immediately think Islamic given the nature of the attack similar to how immediately it would have been concluded it was an IRA attack if a bomb when off in the 70s in England and no one batted an eyelid

[Ammi]

…but that doesn’t change that these are all threads and paths of disinformation and how easily that travels into mindsets, which once fixed can often then close down to what is the truth…it’s all very equally contributory to very harmful false information…and sadly what is all too often in present times…

[Ammi]

…it seems like a good and fair article because it does show ‘in parallel’ as it says, the different threads of the false claims of this story…and how they’re essentially still continuing with no investigations being completed yet…