[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Good King Glennceslas

It does seem a bit unfair to keep him hanging so to speak.

Yeah, that part was upsetting me a bit.

[Benjamin]

Yes, just as unfair as making a spiteful blog about innocent members...

[James]

The idea behind indefinite bans is we are actually quite lenient and want to give people more opportunities change and to contribute positively to the forum. On other forums I think one wrong thing and people are gone for good.

With regards to Scott, he has been banned many times, and we keep giving him more chances. But he keeps coming back from bans and doing weird and not nice things on the forum, not just the blog episode which was bad enough.

You know how many infractions he has had? 179. Yeah, we are that lenient.

[Marcus.]

179 wowers

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by James

The idea behind indefinite bans is we are actually quite lenient and want to give people more opportunities change and to contribute positively to the forum. On other forums I think one wrong thing and people are gone for good.

With regards to Scott, he has been banned many times, and we keep giving him more chances. But he keeps coming back from bans and doing weird and not nice things on the forum, not just the blog episode which was bad enough.

You know how many infractions he has had? 179. Yeah, we are that lenient.

This is true. other forums are way more strict. One strike and you're out.

[Jordan.]

So funny the people in here who are ready to forgive and forget but are the complete opposite in the Stacey thread

[Benjamin]

Wow, I knew he had a lot, didn't realise it had totaled that amount though.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

So funny the people in here who are ready to forgive and forget but are the complete opposite in the Stacey thread

Again, the situations are quite different

However I do find it quite amusing that certain people are all for scott coming back after what he did, when if it had been anyone else doing it they would be asking why the ban wasnt permanent, and fighting against it being lifted, or at the very least agreeing that the ban is justified.

Basically most people dont give a crap what the ban was actually for, or how justified it was, or how many people the incident affected... the only important thing is if they like the banned member or not. Or thats how it seems.

[Benjamin]

It makes me laugh when people say the forum is dead without him. Ridiculous, there are plenty of active people on here to talk to and have a laugh with ranging right across the board in different areas of the forum; be it the sports section with Novo and co, the music section with reece and co or Chat and Games with Ammi and co.

[Ramsay]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

This is true. other forums are way more strict. One strike and you're out.

Probably forums that have a huge number of users so it's not like it would make a difference
But if that was here, there would be no one left lol

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

It makes me laugh when people say the forum is dead without him. Ridiculous, there are plenty of active people on here to talk to and have a laugh with ranging right across the board in different areas of the forum; be it the sports section with Novo and co, the musc section with reece and co or Chat and Games with Ammi and co.

Yeah, especially given that he barely posted outside the chat thread, and when he did it tended to be some irrelevant gif, or a graphic story about some guy he just met/****ed in the bushes outside tescos :S

[Glenn.]

It's not a case of being friends with him. I don't like the way he's being solely blamed for it and being punished accordingly. People letting him take the blame for it is pissing me off.

Yeah ok, he made the blog and yes he posted the ****, but he only posted what other members were sending. The whole thing was stupid but to blame one person is unjustified IMO.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Karl

Probably forums that have a huge number of users so it's not like it would make a difference
But if that was here, there would be no one left lol

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Good King Glennceslas

It's not a case of being friends with him. I don't like the way he's being solely blamed for it and being punished accordingly. People letting him take the blame for it is pissing me off.

Yeah ok, he made the blog and yes he posted the ****, but he only posted what other members were sending. The whole thing was stupid but to blame one person is unjustified IMO.

We are well are that others were involved, however as he was the only one we could 'identify' so to speak, he took the brunt of it. The rest just hid behind him and I would bet to this day they wouldnt shoulder some of the blame.

But again, it wasnt only the burn blog that led to the ban.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Good King Glennceslas

It's not a case of being friends with him. I don't like the way he's being solely blamed for it and being punished accordingly. People letting him take the blame for it is pissing me off.

Yeah ok, he made the blog and yes he posted the ****, but he only posted what other members were sending. The whole thing was stupid but to blame one person is unjustified IMO.

We don't know who the other people are to punish though and also none of those really nasty things people said would have been published if Scott didn't choose to approve them

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Again, the situations are quite different

However I do find it quite amusing that certain people are all for scott coming back after what he did, when if it had been anyone else doing it they would be asking why the ban wasnt permanent, and fighting against it being lifted, or at the very least agreeing that the ban is justified.

Basically most people dont give a crap what the ban was actually for, or how justified it was, or how many people the incident affected... the only important thing is if they like the banned member or not. Or thats how it seems.

I don't know anything about this , but having read this thread from the start I tend to agree with the bolded bit.
BTW didn't the two mentioned members not join the first off site Razzies site before it was closed a week or so ago?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yeah, especially given that he barely posted outside the chat thread, and when he did it tended to be some irrelevant gif, or a graphic story about some guy he just met/****ed in the bushes outside tescos :S

sorry Vicky that made me laugh,I was thinking in pictures

[Lee.]

I think this could go on forever.. Either way, I think the mods/admin need to put Scott out his misery, define an indefinite ban and make a decision on his future on the forum.

I do think it's a bit rotten that he's being left not knowing. Permaban him or let him back and all move on

[Amy Jade]

I don't know what was said but let bygones be bygones. It's just a website.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Omg! 179 Infractions!

[Kate!]

But when what was said was deeply disturbing, offensive and sick it's not that easy.

Just to clarify, especially since Scott himself has posted in here to the effect he himself accepts it's justified he was banned, that while I'd like to move on from it all and firmly stated IF (with emphasis) he came back I'd give him a clean slate, I still don't think he SHOULD come back and at the risk of setting you all off again I think he wouldn't be capable of this type of thing not happening again.

I'm tired of seeing pleas for his return and misguided resentment against those of us who it hurt and upset just because their friend is banned. When you think about it that's really unfair. Plus it just brings the whole thing back up again and potentially gives Scott false hope.

I don't think pushing for clarification on his ban is a good idea either, as it stands he isn't actually permabanned - that's been stated many times, in my opinion that's very decent considering.

There are some excellent posts in here, by Zee, Vicky and Ben, that say everything I feel and haven't put into words myself.

Scott, I do feel for you and acknowledge you have issues and don't enjoy the fact you've gone BUT you cannot do things like this, and shame on those who both joined in and encouraged you. Are they really true friends?

[bwoty]

I'm sorry I know this is all past history and nothing to do with me, but this whole thing looks staged to me.

The OP and banned member clearly planned this thread together, both sound like trouble makers.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by bwoty

I'm sorry I know this is all past history and nothing to do with me, but this whole thing looks staged to me.

The OP and banned member clearly planned this thread together, both sound like trouble makers.

Yeah, ammi's notorious for being the biggest **** stirrer on this forum..

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by bwoty

I'm sorry I know this is all past history and nothing to do with me, but this whole thing looks staged to me.

The OP and banned member clearly planned this thread together, both sound like trouble makers.

Just no

[Ammi]

..the only thing I want to add to the thread and especially to Scott’s post is that he and I never discussed this, he wasn’t aware that I was making this thread...I didn’t want to ‘get his hopes up’, so it’s not a ‘Scott plan’ to try to have a ban lifted although I do know that he would rather know if his ban is likely to be permanent, rather than this uncertainty....I will also say that people who have considered themselves to be Scott’s friends were equally targeted and hurt by the blog as much as other people he may not get along with...that’s the problem and nature of something like that, once started, it becomes difficult to control, which is why it really isn’t a good idea for anyone to associate themselves with in the first place..there is no..’we’re ok, it didn’t effect/hurt us and we like him’...and I personally don’t feel atm, it’s ‘decent’ at all....it’s much easier to face something when you know what it is that you’re facing, the worst things in life are uncertainties because uncertainties/not knowing gives you nothing to begin to face/deal with....no starting point..



...and thank you to everyone for discussing this reasonably/contributing and giving your views which although differ, were really all quite ‘thread closed free..’.....