[Crimson Dynamo]

But say a prayer – pray for the other ones

At Christmas time – it’s hard but while you’re having fun

There’s a world outside your window – and it’s a world of dread and fear

Where a kiss of love can kill you – and there’s death in every tear

And the Christmas bells that ring there – are the clanging chimes of doom

Well tonight we’re reaching out and touching you


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We know that a group of millionaire celebrities have spent an afternoon singing asking us to donate money for a disease in principally 3 small African countries that has killed around 5000 people. But look at the actual lyrics

"There’s a world outside your window – and it’s a world of dread and fear"


Really, when i look out my window i see hills and sheep, in fact when I recall the last Tibb thread on what is outside your window no one replied with "dread and fear"

"And there is death in every tear" -again I am not sure what that means either.

And the logo shows the whole of Africa - that is a bit nasty to 90% of the rest of Africa that is Ebola free.

How do you feel about all this?



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...orld-tour.html

http://www.therichest.com/celebnetwo.../u2-net-worth/

[Crimson Dynamo]

There are 3 times as many Christians in Nigeria than in England and Wales


So One imagines that they in fact Do know its Christmas time....


(Thank you Radio 2 for that stat)

[Livia]

Well, the window thing... the celebrities are obviously trying to open our eyes to the real world because we live such cosseted lives, with people giving us free stuff and lackeys to run around catering to our every whim so we obviously don't comprehend the hardships that go on in the real world. Oh no hang on... that's them.

[Nedusa]

I feel sorry for all the poor African people who now have Ebola to contend with.

Thanks to Sir Bob as we all know his efforts in putting together the original Band Aid and then Live Aid pretty much eradicated ALL hunger and poverty in Africa.

But now with nasty Ebola on the rise there I guess he will raise enough money through this amazing single to eradicate Ebola from Africa.

Thank God for Sir Bob doing the jobs ALL Govt's simply cannot get done.

I think Sir Bob should get another Knighthood for his efforts and we can start calling him Sir Sir Bob or Sir squared Bob....maybe even offer to cut his distinguished locks.

Whatta Guy....................

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I feel sorry for all the poor African people who now have Ebola to contend with.

Thanks to Sir Bob as we all know his efforts in putting together the original Band Aid and then Live Aid pretty much eradicated ALL hunger and poverty in Africa.

But now with nasty Ebola on the rise there I guess he will raise enough money through this amazing single to eradicate Ebola from Africa.

Thank God for Sir Bob doing the jobs ALL Govt's simply cannot get done.

I think Sir Bob should get another Knighthood for his efforts and we can start calling him Sir Sir Bob or Sir squared Bob....maybe even offer to cut his distinguished locks.

Whatta Guy....................

[Josy]

I feel you are thinking to much into one sentence of the song tbh and lucky you, that you see something nice when you look out of a window but not everyone does, I'm not just talking about disease and famine either, no one knows what kind of hardships are waiting round the corner for them.

The celebs are trying to encourage people to help in any way they can, it's a very bad day when acts of kindness like that get looked down upon IMHO.

[Josy]

Also

And there is death in every tear

This is referring to the way the virus can be carried. The relatives of people that have the virus can't touch them, clean them, wipe their tears and so on because of the risks of catching the disease.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

I feel you are thinking to much into one sentence of the song tbh and lucky you, that you see something nice when you look out of a window but not everyone does, I'm not just talking about disease and famine either, no one knows what kind of hardships are waiting round the corner for them.

The celebs are trying to encourage people to help in any way they can, it's a very bad day when acts of kindness like that get looked down upon IMHO.

I know, what the hell is wrong with people?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I know, what the hell is wrong with people?

It's crazy eh? if you don't want to donate to a certain cause then don't do it, no one is being forced fgs.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Josy

I feel you are thinking to much into one sentence of the song tbh and lucky you, that you see something nice when you look out of a window but not everyone does, I'm not just talking about disease and famine either, no one knows what kind of hardships are waiting round the corner for them.

The celebs are trying to encourage people to help in any way they can, it's a very bad day when acts of kindness like that get looked down upon IMHO.

I think people are just fed up with groups like Bono (net worth of U2 £800,000,000) asking folk for money for issues that we already contribute to via taxes.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Josy

I feel you are thinking to much into one sentence of the song tbh and lucky you, that you see something nice when you look out of a window but not everyone does, I'm not just talking about disease and famine either, no one knows what kind of hardships are waiting round the corner for them.

The celebs are trying to encourage people to help in any way they can, it's a very bad day when acts of kindness like that get looked down upon IMHO.

Yes, I guess especially the 20,000 old aged UK pensioners who will die this year from being cold as they cant afford to heat their homes.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes, I guess especially the 20,000 old aged UK pensioners who will die this year from being cold as they cant afford to heat their homes.

And money gets raised through charities for that sort of thing too, as well as the food donations and so on...they also receive cold weather payments.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Josy

And money gets raised through charities for that sort of thing too, as well as the food donations and so on...they also receive cold weather payments.

but so they get anywhere near the publicity?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

but so they get anywhere near the publicity?

Age UK is one of the largest well known charities and they talk about the effects of winter on the elderly a lot so I would say yeah.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes, I guess especially the 20,000 old aged UK pensioners who will die this year from being cold as they cant afford to heat their homes.

This is one of the richest countries in the world, and while the particular problem you highlight is immensely regrettable, the sad fact is, that it's the effect of many, many, causes - of which, the unequal distribution of wealth, insufficient Government action, the unfettered greed of the utility companies, and the lack of forward planning by certain of the old people in question, are just some of them.

As already pointed out by other FM's, however, some preventative, remedial, and compensatory, policies are in place to alleviate - though sadly not eradicate - the problem of OAP's struggling to stay warm in this country each Winter, and I cannot fathom how this problem has any bearing on whether people in a democracy should elect to donate to a given charity or not?

I personally respect Bob Geldorf and what he has done for charity over the years. I do not see any cynical motives in either the man's reason for continuing to capitalise on his - still valid - celebrity status to benefit good causes, nor in the re-written lyrics of the Band Aid single, and I think it's both pedantic and petty for people to find fault with either.

Spoiled, immature, selfish brat 'pop stars' receive less flak for punching press photographers and fans, wrecking hotel rooms in drug-fueled frenzies, and inciting illegal rebellion in impressionable kids, than this quiet, polite, and thoroughly decent man receives because he tries to make this sick, saddo, fecked up world, a little bit of a better place to live in.

I'm baffled.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Josy

I feel you are thinking to much into one sentence of the song tbh and lucky you, that you see something nice when you look out of a window but not everyone does, I'm not just talking about disease and famine either, no one knows what kind of hardships are waiting round the corner for them.

The celebs are trying to encourage people to help in any way they can, it's a very bad day when acts of kindness like that get looked down upon IMHO.

Couldn't have put it better.

[MTVN]

Well the fact is that there are dozens of worthwhile causes, it's unrealistic to expect them all to receive equal attention. That's just self-evident really.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well the fact is that there are dozens of worthwhile causes, it's unrealistic to expect them all to receive equal attention. That's just self-evident really.

quite

I have found it difficult to get my Charity for tall blonde lipstick- lesbians with large breasts "Strapadicktomy UK" off the ground and its idiots like Gandalf and his celeb pals that are making it more difficult

In fact it would not have even got past the initial round of fund raising without a sizeable donation from Ninastar...

[Niamh.]

No good deed goes unpunished eh?

[Northern Monkey]

The tear thing is what apparently inspired him to rerelease the song.An African nurse died after wiping a childs tear away
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...id-single.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

The tear thing is what apparently inspired him to rerelease the song.An African nurse died after wiping a childs tear away
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...id-single.html

So, without sounding heartless, its was death from one tear, it has been claimed

and I doubt that was proven, it sounds anecdotal at best

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So, without sounding heartless, its was death from one tear, it has been claimed

and I doubt that was proven, it sounds anecdotal at best

Yeah she probs got vommed on too or something.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So, without sounding heartless, its was death from one tear, it has been claimed

and I doubt that was proven, it sounds anecdotal at best

Ffs.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

The tear thing is what apparently inspired him to rerelease the song.An African nurse died after wiping a childs tear away
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...id-single.html

Thats actually heartbreaking. I do think its been slightly...newspaper-ized though..I have a hard time believing a single tear could do this unless she licked the tear or something.

Its just awful to think of how these people must be feeling, especially parents who cant hold their kids or anything.

I have not bought music in about 10 years or so, as I prefer to get it free ( naughty me) but I will buy this.

[Tom4784]

Band Aid as a whole is just a patronising platform for Bob Geldof to get attention and to slate anyone who has the audacity to not want to stroke his ego. I'd rather donate directly to the charities and cut out the self obsessed middleman.