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We can't both teach children not to hit others and discipline them with physical punishment.

Obviously avoiding all physical interventions is the best idea. Teach a child that it's okay for an adult to hit a child, what are they likely to grow up to do.
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We can't both teach children not to hit others and discipline them with physical punishment.

Obviously avoiding all physical interventions is the best idea. Teach a child that it's okay for an adult to hit a child, what are they likely to grow up to do.
Whatever happened to "pick on someone your own size"?
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Hitting someone is a violent act though, I would never go to a personal level and call your parents anything Alf but I can't help how I feel about this subject, I do feel very strongly about it too.
I don't for 1 second believe you would, and I never took it that way.

I'm just making an argument for what I believe, just the same as you.
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I don't for 1 second believe you would, and I never took it that way.

I'm just making an argument for what I believe, just the same as you.
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Mind i would rather be smacked than be yanked along by the arm...that looks horrid.
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I need to confess, I've hit my some more since he turned 18 and exceeded 6ft than I did when he was smaller than me, am I still a bad mum?
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I need to confess, I've hit my some more since he turned 18 and exceeded 6ft than I did when he was smaller than me, am I still a bad mum?
Atleast its a fair fight now
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Fight?... That would suggest he hits me back!

He wouldn't dare
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Fight?... That would suggest he hits me back!

He wouldn't dare
I don't think anyone would dare Kizzy
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No, but i bet you cried after it.
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I'm sorry Maru but that just sounds creepy as hell. Why on Earth is it ok and a sign of love and good parenting to hit a child, a little child specifically. Violence should never ever be the answer, I hope you change your mind on it
I think you're thinking touchy feely, all hugs, etc... what I mean is, it's not done with malice. Like, sorry but we have to do this kid kind of compassion... I would say there was little emotion about it when I was younger, but we could tell they didn't really want to do it... so I guess understated. Maybe having an understanding is what i mean...
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No, but i bet you cried after it.
I did ...

I only get that ratty when I'm exausted so now instead of arguing back he just puts the kettle on
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I did ...

I only get that ratty when I'm exausted so now instead of arguing back he just puts the kettle on
Because he is/was at an age where the shock factor works....young kids, imo just dont get why they are being hit.
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Because he is/was at an age where the shock factor works....young kids, imo just dont get why they are being hit.
Oh he knew alright... if I go to work and come home 14hrs later to a sink full of pots he knows banshee mum is about to make an appearance
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Oh he knew alright... if I go to work and come home 14hrs later to a sink full of pots he knows banshee mum is about to make an appearance
Im calling you the matriarch from now on...not to your face though.




My mum made it worse cause she only hit me when i was about that age as well, purely out of dissapointment and frustration.

To about the age of 13 it would be wait till your dad gets in....and i always did. As did he.

After about an hour of sobbing, after enduring both the raged "6 of the best" hand mark on the legs enducing skelps, and the "in your room" punishment, she would come through and cuddle into me...


The old good cop bad cop routine..luckily im giggling at the memories if im honest.

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My mum made it worse cause she only hit me when i was about that age as well, purely out of dissapointment and frustration.

To about the age of 13 it would be wait till your dad gets in....and i always did. As did he.

After about an hour of sobbing, after enduring both the raged "6 of the best" hand mark on the legs enducing skelps, and the "in your room" punishment, she would come through and cuddle into me...


The old good cop bad cop routine..luckily im giggling at the memories if im honest.
Naw... inconsistent parenting can't beat it
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Of course parents should be able to punish their children,it depends what way you decide to do it, I always find taking a favourite thing off them works best or getting them to do chores, and there is always that 'LOOK' lol
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I think you're thinking touchy feely, all hugs, etc... what I mean is, it's not done with malice. Like, sorry but we have to do this kid kind of compassion... I would say there was little emotion about it when I was younger, but we could tell they didn't really want to do it... so I guess understated. Maybe having an understanding is what i mean...
I don't know, I'm sorry but I just think putting your hands on another person especially a child is never ok, it's illegal here now and rightly so imo. There are other ways to discipline children, I mean it's humiliating aswell
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I suppose mums smacking their kids is ok, not dads though. Or maybe mums for the girls and dads for the boys..im torn really because i never hit my lad but was hit. So maybe it works...but then i cant remember being hit for hitting...i know i will shop lift for the hell of it still though.

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Im down to accepting it being ok after a certain age...probably 14
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I remember just from watching Supernanny the parents on there use to be too soft and timid to discipline their kids . Which is why they were in such a huge mess .

Kids going to bed when they like
Punching kicking their parents
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When parents ground their kids it Should mean GROUNDED
No toys ,no TV , no sweets ,no friends allowed round and go to bed early .

Some kids push boundaries today as they know they'll get away with it with no consequences . So yes punishment should happen but that doesn't necessarily mean slapping them,it can be removing their games away, take away their computer etc , and properly ground them .
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I remember just from watching Supernanny the parents on there use to be too soft and timid to discipline their kids . Which is why they were in such a huge mess .

Kids going to bed when they like
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When parents ground their kids it Should mean GROUNDED
No toys ,no TV , no sweets ,no friends allowed round and go to bed early .

Some kids push boundaries today as they know they'll get away with it with no consequences . So yes punishment should happen but that doesn't necessarily mean slapping them,it can be removing their games away, take away their computer etc , and properly ground them .
Just dont surround them with wired fencing or take photos.
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That's insane ! .
There was actually a evil babysitter that abused a tiny kid by putting barbed wire around the cot / bed .
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That's insane ! .
There was actually a evil babysitter that abused a tiny kid by putting barbed wire around the cot / bed .
I can only blink in despair m8.
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