[Kazanne]

Do you find it strange the amount of people who say they don't believe in God,yet relish in a festival that celebrates the birth of Jesus,year after year?

[Tom]

Its more a secular cultural thing if anything that just happens to have religious roots. I do think its a bit hypocritical but celebrate it anyway.

[Callum]

Yes I do, I love Christmas. I prefer it to Birthday's, Easter, Halloween and all the others annual celebrations.

[Stacey.]

I celebrate christmas but never think anything about religion or Jesus etc.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Stacey.

I celebrate christmas but never think anything about religion or Jesus etc.

pmsl, this. :')

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Stacey.

I celebrate christmas but never think anything about religion or Jesus etc.

Same.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Stacey.

I celebrate christmas but never think anything about religion or Jesus etc.

This

[_Seth]

Originally Posted by Stacey.

I celebrate christmas but never think anything about religion or Jesus etc.

This.

Even though last year when I was a Christian I was like "Why do non-Christians celebrate Christmas?"

[Mystic Mock]

yes i do,and even more so when i get reborn as jesus christ on here.

[MTVN]

Yeah I celebrate it, I'm not particularly religious although I try and acknowledge it's origins

[Niall]

I do celebrate Christmas for the Jesus part aswell. But most of the time my selfish brain thinks only of presents

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Blitzen

I do celebrate Christmas for the Jesus part aswell. But most of the time my selfish brain thinks only of presents

same here.

[Jamie.....]

Yeah I celebrate it.
But it doesn't have anything to do with god really.
Jesus was born in the spring/summer, and Christmas was originally a Pagan celebration but Christians kinda took it over.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jamie.....

Yeah I celebrate it.
But it doesn't have anything to do with god really.
Jesus was born in the spring/summer, and Christmas was originally a Pagan celebration but Christians kinda took it over.

Yes,i know that,but it IS looked on as the birth of Christ,hence the name,as Christians dedicated that day to celebrate his birth,so isn't it a bit hypocritical of people to selfishly celebrate something they don't believe in just to get 'presents' etc?

[Stu]

This argument comes up year after year and I really don't see the complication. There is no hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is contradicting yourself. That would be me not believing in God and celebrating the birth of Jesus. That's not what I'm doing. I'm celebrating the most awesome time of the year and being a shamelessly materialistic prat. Reveling in the music, the food, the booze, the fact that everyone is that little bit happier. I couldn't care less what the days roots are. Me and the rest of the modernized world have hijacked those roots and turned it into a new kind of monster.

I mean do you people who believe in Jesus read his gospel all the time as your supposed to? I'm guessing not. I'm not the one guilty of hyposcrisy. Do you really understand the religion you claim to follow or is it just a convorsation piece?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Mr. Tinsels

This argument comes up year after year and I really don't see the complication. There is no hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is contradicting yourself. That would be me not believing in God and celebrating the birth of Jesus. That's not what I'm doing. I'm celebrating the most awesome time of the year and being a shamelessly materialistic prat. Reveling in the music, the food, the booze, the fact that everyone is that little bit happier. I couldn't care less what the days roots are. Me and the rest of the modernized world have hijacked those roots and turned it into a new kind of monster.

I mean do you people who believe in Jesus read his gospel all the time as your supposed to? I'm guessing not. I'm not the one guilty of hyposcrisy. Do you really understand the religion you claim to follow or is it just a convorsation piece?

No need to get ancy,I only asked the question as i find it interesting ,so are you saying you believe in God?as you have said hypocrisy is celebrating something you dont believe in,that is all i asked,I can understand all the people celebrating and being materialistic if they are celebrating his birth,I just find it strange those that don't believe in him.it's no big deal and when did I say I followed a religion?I asked a question that is all,stop presuming you know about people.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by kazanne

No need to get ancy,I only asked the question as i find it interesting ,so are you saying you believe in God?as you have said hypocrisy is celebrating something you dont believe in,that is all i asked,I can understand all the people celebrating and being materialistic if they are celebrating his birth,I just find it strange those that don't believe in him.it's no big deal and when did I say I followed a religion?I asked a question that is all,stop presuming you know about people.

What on earth are you talking about? I'm not getting antsy. And I never assumed you were religious. In fact ... none of that post was directed at you. I was just commenting on religion in general.

My post seems to have gone way over your head. Yes ... it is hypocritical to celebrate something you don't believe in. That's why I don't celebrate the birth of Jesus.

I just celebrate the rest of Christmas. It is possible to have an atheist Christmas you know. Again I really, really don't see the complication.

I buy a Christmas tree, I share gifts, I get drunk, listen to Christmas music, and pass out at 4 in the morning.

I don't believe in god.

No problem.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Mr. Tinsels

What on earth are you talking about? I'm not getting antsy. And I never assumed you were religious. In fact ... none of that post was directed at you. I was just commenting on religion in general.

My post seems to have gone way over your head. Yes ... it is hypocritical to celebrate something you don't believe in. That's why I don't celebrate the birth of Jesus.

I just celebrate the rest of Christmas. It is possible to have an atheist Christmas you know. Again I really, really don't see the complication.

I buy a Christmas tree, I share gifts, I get drunk, listen to Christmas music, and pass out at 4 in the morning.

I don't believe in god.

No problem.

Quote from your post=Do you really understand the religion you claim to follow or is it just a convorsation piece?
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That seems like a question aimed at me,so I assume your post Was aimed at me,why is it people cannot ask a question on here without people getting so defensive,blimey,I was just curious,no wonder people leave here in droves.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Quote from your post=Do you really understand the religion you claim to follow or is it just a convorsation piece?
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That seems like a question aimed at me,so I assume your post Was aimed at me,why is it people cannot ask a question on here without people getting so defensive,blimey,I was just curious,no wonder people leave here in droves.

I didn't call your name. I didn't even quote your post. 'You' = any Christian reading the post who thinks its silly for non believers to celebrate.

Stop being so melodramatic. Nobody attacked you. I'm just answering the questions you are asking. I'm not getting defensive. You are. As a result of having to explain all of this to you in black and white I probably look like a pretentious prat through no fault of my own.

Simple.

[InOne]

In a word. No.

[Benjamin]

For me, Christmas has no religous meaning at all. My view on Christmas is family based; a traditional family holiday, where the family (including extended) all get together as a whole and spend some quality time with each other and enjoy it. To me religion (Christianity) has none of it's original context left in this day and age anyway.

Am I hypocrital? maybe

Do I care? No.

[Stu]

Youtube video

[MTVN]

Christmas has come to mean so much more beside the religious aspect of it; it now symbolises family, turkey, Christmas trees etc. just as much as it does Baby Jesus and the Nativity Play.

So, no I dont think it's hypocritical, I think we've got to a stage where it is acceptable for the non-religious qualities of it to be just as freely celebrated as the Christian element

Some may want to go to Church Christmas morning and think about the birth of Jesus, some may not, either is fine in my opinion..

[Stu]

That exactly.

[keithafc]

Christmas and religion DON'T mix anyway.

Very few people celebrate Christmas in a religious way anymore and thank F for that because it would be so boring.

Its all about the gifts, the great food, family, a time of people being happy, Christmas TV and so on.

The religion aspect should clear off tbh.