[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Shaun

People seem to be conflating 'sexual assault' or 'assault' with 'harassment' in here and I think it's dangerous to just put all of them under the same bracket when they're very different crimes with very different perpetrators.

I'm not even 100% sure the claims of harassment made by these women are even technically illegal, they're just something you can be fired and sued for? Like I don't see the room for Freeman to be arrested for this, even if the claims are true.

That's why I hate the term "sexual harassment" as it can mean anything from a flirty joke / comment to a hand on someone's shoulder .

It dilutes actual serious harassment & real rape .
It's got the stage where if a guy innocently places his hand on a woman's arm either to say hello or get their attention when talking ,the woman can turn around and say she was "sexually assaulted" it's ridiculous ! .

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

That's why I hate the term "sexual harassment" as it can mean anything from a flirty joke / comment to a hand on someone's shoulder .

It dilutes actual serious harassment & real rape .
It's got the stage where if a guy innocently places his hand on a woman's arm either to say hello or get their attention when talking ,the woman can turn around and say she was "sexually assaulted" it's ridiculous ! .

That’s true and women are tactile and make flirty/mucky jokes all the time and rub their butt on you etc.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

That’s true and women are tactile and make flirty/mucky jokes all the time and rub their butt on you etc.

Who are these women rubbing their butts on you all the time?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Who are these women rubbing their butts on you all the time?

I’ve worked with women who fancied me and used to push themself on me with their ass and stand next to me and hip barge me in a playful manner.Not to mention touching me all the time and putting hands in my pocket etc.
I didn’t take to Twitter to complain.Maybe i should’ve?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I’ve worked with women who fancied me and used to push themself on me with their ass and stand next to me and hip barge me in a playful manner.Not to mention touching me all the time and putting hands in my pocket etc.
I didn’t take to Twitter to complain.Maybe i should’ve?

I doubt many would take you seriously unfortunately , they'd probably tell you to "man up " and they'd laugh and tell you how you should enjoy being chased or some nonsense .

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I doubt many would take you seriously unfortunately , they'd probably tell you to "man up " and they'd laugh and tell you how you should enjoy being chased or some nonsense .

Well I wasn’t complaining.I was young free and single.One of them was U.G.L.Y and she dint have no alibi though.It was all ok if i closed my eyes and thought of fitties.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Well I wasn’t complaining.I was young free and single.One of them was U.G.L.Y and she dint have no alibi though.It was all ok if i closed my eyes and thought of fitties.

Doesn't make it okay though, unless you have that rapport and you're flirting back then they had no right to be touching you like that .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I doubt many would take you seriously unfortunately , they'd probably tell you to "man up " and they'd laugh and tell you how you should enjoy being chased or some nonsense .

And 99% of the time that attitude would be coming from fellow blokes.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

And 99% of the time that attitude would be coming from fellow blokes.

And your point is ?? , If anything it makes it worse when men don't support other men

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I’ve worked with women who fancied me and used to push themself on me with their ass and stand next to me and hip barge me in a playful manner.Not to mention touching me all the time and putting hands in my pocket etc.
I didn’t take to Twitter to complain.Maybe i should’ve?

What's Twitter got to do with it?

Maybe you should've filed a harassment complaint against them to prevent them doing it to others?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

What's Twitter got to do with it?

Maybe you should've filed a harassment complaint against them to prevent them doing it to others?

Oh yeah because they really would of taken him seriously​? .
Men experience all kinds of inappropriate touching & harassment but they either brush it off or they know nothing will come of them reporting it .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Oh yeah because they really would of taken him seriously​? .
Men experience all kinds of inappropriate touching & harassment but they either brush it off or they know nothing will come of them reporting it .

How do you know?

Are you familiar with his HR department?

Do you have examples of a man reporting it and nothing being done?

Your tune has changed from last night though when you were joining in chastising these women for not coming forward sooner. Now you're saying why should victims bother?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

That’s true and women are tactile and make flirty/mucky jokes all the time and rub their butt on you etc.

As we know there's a lot of double standards , I bet there's women that joked had banter with Morgan Freeman and I bet they were tactile back . I know in general women can be just as rude when it comes to flirting and touching .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

As we know there's a lot of double standards , I bet there's women that joked had banter with Morgan Freeman and I bet they were tactile back . I know in general women can be just as rude when it comes to flirting and touching .

But that doesn't mean these women filing complaints were doing anything in return or to invite Morgan's advances.

Anymore than Morgan's behaviour is a reflection on any man but himself.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

That's why I hate the term "sexual harassment" as it can mean anything from a flirty joke / comment to a hand on someone's shoulder .

It dilutes actual serious harassment & real rape .
It's got the stage where if a guy innocently places his hand on a woman's arm either to say hello or get their attention when talking ,the woman can turn around and say she was "sexually assaulted" it's ridiculous ! .

That's why there's a distinction between harassment and assault. They're both very specific things.

If someone's constantly being pestered with inappropriate comments that is harassment, whether they want to claim it's a joke or not.

As for your comment that any woman who has her arm touched can scream she was sexually assaulted... name me one incident of this happening?