[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

This thread's been mentioned in the tower and, tbh, I actually agree with the idea of, at least on a temporary basis, infractions being made public. Mainly because it will result in the wind being knocked out of a lot of people's sails when they realise that assumed bias against them doesn't exist.

In fact, to spill a little tea, a lot of people who are for this who also typically believe they are being unfairly persecuted would be faced with undeniable proof of the opposite, that they aren't infracted as much as other people are.

If this does happen, it'll be a good way to teach people to never confuse their assumptions for facts.
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I'd assume if it were to happen, we'd just say something like

'Blurryface - 2pts - Insulting a forum member'

The infracted person would know the post in question and, in a situation where they could lie about it to rile people up, I'd say we reveal the infraction in it's entirely.

It's something I've been tempted to do often when I see people blatantly lie about why they've got infracted It's one way an open system could benefit the mods I suppose. Can't call bias if we can expose the truth when issues are raised. In the current system we kind of have to sit on our hands even when we know we can end a situation by revealing the truth.

It seems that we both want the same innovation for exactly the same reason.

Just for the record, Dezzy, I am NOT always referring to you when I refer cryptically to 'certain parties' because - and this may surprise you - I do not think that you are behind most of the 'punishments which I personally receive and perceive as 'unwarranted', but I do feel that the current 'closed' system does NOTHING to prevent you - as the Mod who is the most vocally active in most 'heated' Serious Debate threads - as being blamed or unfairly 'scapegoated' in a LOT of cases.

As you so rightly suggest in both these quoted posts, revealing Infractions in their entirety will 'nail the lie' in any wrongly perceived bias claims and prevent frustration and resentment from 'festering' within any members guilty of such wrongful presumptions.

It will of course, also help prove when any Infractions ARE wrongly 'awarded' and that also cannot be anything but a good thing on a forum where so many long-serving, good, and pro-active members are disgruntled, because Mods - like such members - ARE only human and are fallible and CAN make mistakes.

I truly believe that this innovation CAN and WILL help restore good relations on this forum, because there IS a problem, and it is not going to be resolved by ignoring it or stepping up punishments for members who already feel that they are being treated unfairly.

Finally, I applaud whichever Mod/Admin left this thread alone and uncensored because it is helping to 'Clear The Air' just discussing this issue. Thank You.