[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

It seems that we both want the same innovation for exactly the same reason.

Just for the record, Dezzy, I am NOT always referring to you when I refer cryptically to 'certain parties' because - and this may surprise you - I do not think that you are behind most of the 'punishments which I personally receive and perceive as 'unwarranted', but I do feel that the current 'closed' system does NOTHING to prevent you - as the Mod who is the most vocally active in most 'heated' Serious Debate threads - as being blamed or unfairly 'scapegoated' in a LOT of cases.

As you so rightly suggest in both these quoted posts, revealing Infractions in their entirety will 'nail the lie' in any wrongly perceived bias claims and prevent frustration and resentment from 'festering' within any members guilty of such wrongful presumptions.

It will of course, also help prove when any Infractions ARE wrongly 'awarded' and that also cannot be anything but a good thing on a forum where so many long-serving, good, and pro-active members are disgruntled, because Mods - like such members - ARE only human and are fallible and CAN make mistakes.

I truly believe that this innovation CAN and WILL help restore good relations on this forum, because there IS a problem, and it is not going to be resolved by ignoring it or stepping up punishments for members who already feel that they are being treated unfairly.

Finally, I applaud whichever Mod/Admin left this thread alone and uncensored because it is helping to 'Clear The Air' just discussing this issue. Thank You.

I'll be honest with you, I was behind the deleting of your Micheal thread and the ensuing infraction and I'll explain why since I think you believe you were being censored. I looked at that thread and reversed the situation. If, for example, Marsh made that same thread about, say, Kazanne for example. I think that would have gotten a very negative reaction and would have led to a lot of drama. When it comes to moderating decisions, I value consistency above all. If the reversed situation would have led to drama and would have probably been infracted then I couldn't not do the same for your situation.

People may confuse how I post with how I mod but everyone gets treated equally when it comes to modding. I wasn't censoring you, I was just doing what I would have done if anyone else posted that thread.

I think when it comes to the 'festering' resentment of members towards mods, a lot of that has to do, not so much with us but with certain members spreading half truths and lies and other members buying into it and sadly, I don't think going public with all infractions will completely fix that since, like I've said above, a lot of people tend to use their assumptions as facts and I don't think they'll let an actual fact get in the way of blaming the mods. A lot of people are 'disgruntled' because they are buying into a narrative that simply isn't true.

Still, I'd want to give this a trial run though just so we can completely upend a lot of assumptions about how people are infracted, I just don't think it'll stick with some people since it doesn't fit the narrative they want to portray.

I'll just say this as well, I think I've been modding this site for years now and I can probably count the amount of incorrectly given infractions on my hand (meaning ones given out of a misunderstanding). One thing people always forget is that all the mods see each other's infractions and we do tend to voice our thoughts if we disagree. If we were to reveal all the infractions, you'd see that 99.9999% are completely correct.