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Originally Posted by Marsh.

If they could decorate/make a cake of their own they wouldn't have gone to a bakery? People go to these places to pay for people's expertise.

Yeah, people who don't serve ham or pork is not a valid comparison.
You wouldn't go to them for meats if they did not sell them, just as you wouldn't go to an ice cream parlour for DIY supplies. That's neither here nor there. This man refused the service that they DO OFFER on the basis of the sexuality of the couple. That is discrimination no matter how many invalid comparisons you make.

One again you're not listening to what i said , i never said the gay couple should "make their own cake and decorate it " . I'm merely saying a birthday cake doesn't have to have "Happy birthday" written on it (wow this is hard work) You can have a birthday cake that says congratulations or just a plain cake or one with just balloons decorated on .

It's usually the mixture that defines a birthday cake and the fact that it's 1 cake as usually a wedding cake consists of tiers and several cakes .But in this modern world all kinds of cakes have different mixtures and ingredients.

Like i said the couple could of gone elsewhere or accepted an alternative cake option .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

One again you're not listening to what i said , i never said the gay couple should "make their own cake and decorate it " . I'm merely saying a birthday cake doesn't have to have "Happy birthday" written on it (wow this is hard work) You can have a birthday cake that says congratulations or just a plain cake or one with just balloons decorated on .

It's usually the mixture that defines a birthday cake and the fact that it's 1 cake as usually a wedding cake consists of tiers and several cakes .But in this modern world all kinds of cakes have different mixtures and ingredients.

Like i said the couple could of gone elsewhere or accepted an alternative cake option .

I never said that's what you said, THAT'S WHAT I SAID, hence it appearing in MY post.

People go to bakeries for special occasion cakes because they might want something a bit more than a plain cake, especially for a wedding. Because they want personalised detail on that makes it unique. That tends to be the whole point, otherwise you could buy generic birthday/wedding/balloon whatever cakes from a supermarket.

Yes, they could go anywhere else and try alternative options. BUT the issue isn't solely about them getting the cake they want/need (I'm sure, in the end, they got the cake they wanted elsewhere?), but about being discriminated against by a business for their sexuality, which in 2018 is not acceptable.

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

I never said that's what you said, THAT'S WHAT I SAID, hence it appearing in MY post.

People go to bakeries for special occasion cakes because they might want something a bit more than a plain cake, especially for a wedding. Because they want personalised detail on that makes it unique. That tends to be the whole point, otherwise you could buy generic birthday/wedding/balloon whatever cakes from a supermarket.

Yes, they could go anywhere else and try alternative options. BUT the issue isn't solely about them getting the cake they want/need (I'm sure, in the end, they got the cake they wanted elsewhere?), but about being discriminated against by a business for their sexuality, which in 2018 is not acceptable.

I Doubt they'd feel the same way though if it was another religious bakery refusing to make a wedding cake (ie muslim or jewish) . I've seen it time after time same overreaction for particular religion and the same people who are upset turn a blind eye to other relgiions with either the same views or even stricter views smh .

I've even been around people that have contradicted themselves when it comes to accepting religious beliefs , i've heard people berate the bible and slag off christian beliefs and in the same breath they respect islam beleivers hmm... . surely all religions should be respected ?

We're not all going to have the same views but i can't stand the hypocrisy .

I don't know the ins and outs of what a birthday cake would entail that this baker would make ? , but i don't like the idea of someone being pushed into a corner forced into something he doesn't want to do .

And do we even know if the supreme judge is religious aswell or not? he could even be atheist for all we know ? but that's besides the point.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

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I Doubt they'd feel the same way though if it was another religious bakery refusing to make a wedding cake (ie muslim or jewish) . I've seen it time after time same overreaction for particular religion and the same people who are upset turn a blind eye to other relgiions with either the same views or even stricter views smh .

I've even been around people that have contradicted themselves when it comes to accepting religious beliefs , i've heard people berate the bible and slag off christian beliefs and in the same breath they respect islam beleivers hmm... . surely all religions should be respected ?

We're not all going to have the same views but i can't stand the hypocrisy .

I don't know the ins and outs of what a birthday cake would entail that this baker would make ? , but i don't like the idea of someone being pushed into a corner forced into something he doesn't want to do .

And do we even know if the supreme judge is religious aswell or not? he could even be atheist for all we know ? but that's besides the point.

So these men don't mind homophobic discrimination from anyone but Christians?

Ok.

"Pushed into a corner and forced to do something they don't wanna do". Let's go back to what we're talking about "A baker being asked by a paying customer for a cake". Hardly being dragged to Syria to fight in a war.

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

So these men don't mind homophobic discrimination from anyone but Christians?

Ok.

I didn't say that but they wouldn't take them to court over it i bet

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I didn't say that but they wouldn't take them to court over it i bet

Well, if you're just going to make things up and argue about things that haven't actually happened because of your own conspiracy theories we'll just stop there.